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und herzlich willkommen zu einer neuen Podcast Folge. Wir haben schon Kalenderwoche sechsundvierzig im Jahr vierundzwanzig. Das geht so schnell. Ich bin Dennis. Schön, dass ihr wieder dabei seid. Neben mir im gleichen Raum. Dave aka Delasman Standing in der Dorfdiskothek. Das war aber 'n altes Geräusch, Dave. Wir brauchen neue Geräusche. Ah, ich hab ganz vergessen. Deswegen ist, wir hatten ja schon so viele Geräusche. Ich weiß gar nicht mehr, welche wir hatten. Ja. So, deswegen ich muss mir jetzt alle Folgen noch mal anhören, zu wissen, welche wir hatten, welche nicht. Ich bin Da mach ich eins. Alter, das war cool. Dave, kannst Du nicht auf das hier, die ist? Auch gut. Was der Ansel macht? Der Ansel macht das richtig gut. Ich kann's immer nur jedes zehnte Mai. Alter. Aber der Ansel kann's viel besser. Ey, das ist aber wirklich wie aus sonem Soundboard. Ja, schlecht. Und aus seinem Homeoffice zugeschaltet ist sonst der Liebe. Gareth. Dennis, ich wollt dich grad mal fragen, weißt Du die Kalenderwoche eigentlich immer auswendig oder musst Du vorher nach? Nein, guck sie immer drei Sekunden vorher noch mal schnell nach. Das wär crazy. Ja. Wo schaust Du die nach? Ich weiß nicht mal, wo. In unserem Google Kalender. Krass. Stehen sie oben links neben den Wochen. Ist relativ Ich frag mich, ob den Zuhörern das irgendwas irgendwie bringt, dass wir das in Kalenderwochen irgendwie angeben. Nee, wir nummerieren's halt einfach. Also wir hatten ja, als wir's angefangen haben zu nummerieren, da waren's halt wöchentlich. Da hat's noch mehr Sinn gemacht, da war's einfach durchnummeriert. Jetzt könnte man überlegen, ob man in eine andere Nummerierung übergeht. Okay. Hast Du recht. Machen wir vielleicht nächstes Jahr. Oh. Alles neu. Neues Jahr, neues wir? Ja. Guck mal, generell müssen wir den Podcast neu komplett neu erfinden, wenn hier zwei Gesichter sind, die vor fünf Jahren noch nicht existierten. Stimmt. Stimmt. Ich mein, wir haben dann viereinhalb Jahre. Wir haben da 'n Vierteljahrhundert rum. Nee. Nach dem Jahr ist das, doch, Vierteljahrhundert ist dann rum. Ey, guckt mich so an, als wisst ihr den nicht, wovon ich rede. Nee, wissen wir noch nicht. Wir haben gar keine Ahnung, was Du grad so in den Vordergrund. Von der nächsten Jahr zwanzig fünfundzwanzig. Ach so. Fünfundzwanzig Jahre Podcast haben wir noch nicht. Nein, aber zweitausendfünfundzwanzig im Jahr. Das ist Jahrhundert. Ach so, das Jahrhundert. Okay. Alles klar. So, nennen wir den Podcast so. Meinst Du? Ein Vierteljahrhundert Folge eins. So. Heute reden wir über Dora. Dann haben wir noch ein AI Model, über das wir reden, das ist Oasis. Ich wollte noch nachreichen, MacBooks, die sind ja letzte Woche hatten wir aufgenommen, bevor die m-vier-Mekbook-Max vorgestellt wurden. Und, womit startest Du heute? Ich starte mit Arc zwei Punkt null. Muss man Arc entschuldigen? Ja. Okay. Arc ist ein jetzt nicht mehr so neuer Browser auf dem Horizont der Browsers. Aber ich glaube, er ist relativ gut durchgestartet. Ich glaub, ich hab ihn seit einem Jahr ungefähr. Er basiert auf Chromium, war damals nur auf für iOS, also vor allen Dingen für Macs eigentlich nur verfügbar. Und ja, sie haben gesagt, sie wollen son bisschen das Brosing revolutionieren und son paar neue Dinge einführen. Will ich gar nicht so tief eingehen, guckt ihn euch an. Er lohnt sich, find ihn sehr cool. Und was sie jetzt aber gemacht haben, sie haben arc zwei Punkt null. Und was das ist, ist nicht eine neue Version dieses Browsers, sondern sie sagen, das Produkt so wie es ist, bleibt so, wie es ist. Also es wird sich auch nicht groß was ändern. Es wird Bugfixis geben, aber es wird sich, es wird so bestehen bleiben. Und Securityfixis. Ja. Endlich Das hatten wir in einer der letzten News Folgen. Ja, stimmt. Ja. Ja. Und Arc zwei Punkt null soll eine neue Art von Browser sein. Und sie reden davon so, okay, die Leute, die vielleicht nicht so technisch sind, sondern 'n bisschen unversierter, was so das Browsern im Internet angeht, für die ist dieser Browser eigentlich zu kompliziert und sie wollen eine stark vereinfachte Version mithilfe von AI bauen, wo es wirklich darum geht, Du fragst, was Du willst und bekommst dann genau das. Das ist son bisschen das Motto, was sie da erreichen wollen. Also Du fragst zum Beispiel, zeig mir mal alle Videos von Steve Jobs, wo er krasse neue Dinge, neue Produkte gezeigt hat. Und anstatt dass Du dann irgendwie auf eine Google Seite kommst und tausend Dings sind, gibt er dir drei Tabs, wo Youtube Videos von genau diesen Dingen sind. Also das ist son bisschen, das sind so Previews, die sie zeigen. Die sagen auch, dass das noch nicht das Endprodukt ist, sondern sie viel ausprobieren. So, aber am Ende soll es genau in diese Richtung gehen, so einen Browser zu haben, der, ja, dir das eigentlich auch eine neue Art des Browsers ermöglicht. Find ich sehr spannend. Bin ich sehr gespannt, was am Ende das Produkt sein wird. Mhm. Find ich eigentlich 'n ganz guten Take so, das das Browser im Internet noch mal anders zu denken. So, weil man ja irgendwie schon jetzt mit der Zeit 'n bisschen eingefahren ist und quasi sich da ja über die Jahrzehnte eigentlich nichts so krass weiterentwickelt hat, wie wir da rangehen. Also durch was wir sehen und so ist komplett anders. Aber wie wir das machen, ist gar nichts anderes. Und eigentlich ist es ja genau das, was man damit will, wenn wir jetzt halt irgendwie 'n Video sehen. Weißt Du, wir gehen jetzt intuitiv auf Youtube und geben das dann ein, aber kannst ja auch eigentlich sagen, direkt, hey, ich möcht 'n Video dazu sehen, zack kriegst Du's. Schon spannend. Find ich auch. Aber habt ihr Ja, okay. Ich hab sehr selten auf Google nach 'nem Video gesucht. Nee, genau, sondern auf Youtube. Ja, okay. Auch das nicht. Aber ja, klar, richtig. Aber es geht, also Und dann kann ich sagen. Das ist auch kein Produkt für dich und mich. Ich glaub, wir sind sehr, sehr happy mit Arc, sondern es geht deine Oma vielleicht. Soll das dann nicht eher Arc null Punkt fünf heißen? Weil's ja quasi die einfachere Version ist. Nee, nicht. Vielleicht find's ja so gut, dass es auch für uns am Ende interessant ist. Es ist ja nun gar nicht klar, was am Ende dieses Produkt sein wird. Das sind nur so, sag ich mal, Experimente, die Sie grad fahren. Ja, haben die schon angekündigt, wann die das ungefähr releasen wollen? Mhm. Okay. Alles noch Konzeptionsphase. Ja. Aber ist schon, also ich find trotzdem lustig, ne, weil's ja eine relativ groß, also ich weiß gar nicht, wie groß sie sind, aber zumindest eine Firma ist, ne, die da irgendwie drum gebaut ist und Das ist die Browser Company. Browser Company heißt sie auch, genau. Und wie Sie so selbst gesagt haben, mit ARC, ne, haben sie eigentlich gar nicht das erreicht, was sie machen wollten so, weil sie irgendwie limitiert waren. Und es ist doch irgendwie relativ nah an 'nem Browser dann am Ende gewesen. Ja. Und deswegen ist einfach damit jetzt auch noch mal neu einfach, ne. Das ist schon spannend, spannend. Vielleicht noch als Sidecut, weil darüber arm ich darauf, Theo von t drei. Von dem redet der Fabio Ofter, das ist 'n Youtuber, der früher mal bei Twitch gearbeitet hat. Hat einen kleinen angefangen mit dem CEO von dieser Firma, weil er meinte, ja, er findet das total doof, dass sie sagen, okay, der Browser bleibt so, wie er ist, weil er halt noch extrem viele Schwächen sieht und auch irgendwie Bugs gefunden hat und versucht, die mit denen zu fixen und das ist irgendwie nicht passiert. Mhm. Und dann halt gesagt hat so, ja, der Browser ist tot. Und dann gab's halt 'n kleinen Twitter Beef. Und sie haben sich aber auch irgendwie wohl ausgesprochen. Ach, Moment. Ach, sag ich, Sie wollen den normalen Akt Bros auch gar nicht mehr weiterentwickeln? Ich würd Also, Bugfix ist son bisschen was, aber jetzt so featurerseite, ach, okay. Genau. Okay, das ist ja, okay. Das Ja, aber was vermisst Du denn so? Hast Du irgendwas, was Du vermisst? Ich benutz eigentlich. Besser Du Ich bin zu unsicher. Bleib aber, es gibt 'n alten Chrome. Ich mein, es gibt schon noch 'n paar Features, die, glaub ich, schon werden, die nicht unespannen sind, so was wie, es gibt ja, Moment, vertikales Blitz, Horizontale gibt's aber zum Beispiel nicht. Und das ist, sind dann so Sachen, ja, warum eigentlich nicht? Wär es wär vielleicht auch spannend. Und ja, das wird halt einfach nicht kommen. Ja. Ja, ich kann an der Stelle nur noch mal wiederholen, ich war ja ein sehr überzeugter Chrome Nutzer und hier im Podcast haben wir Fabi und Sebi sehr früh schon immer promotet und haben gesagt, sie nutzen nur noch das. Ich hab's dann irgendwann ausprobiert. Ich bin tatsächlich dort hängen geblieben, also ich mag die Experience. Und ich glaube eigentlich, der der große Unterschied ist es, also für mich ist einfach nur die Meerfläche, die man hat. Es sieht so appia aus, Mhm. Weil die halt, ne, mit Taskleistern Tab bauen und so was das einfach wegreduzieren und ich relativ oft auch diese Seitenleiste irgendwie einklapp und Du hast halt einfach dann mehr so eine App Experience. Und ich glaub, das ist für mich tatsächlich schon der der Hauptunterschied, warum ich das Browser schöner finde in Anführungsstrichen. Ich war tatsächlich eher son bisschen überfordert. Aber man sieht auch viel Fläche so Zeug damit anfangen. So viel kann man auch nicht mal sehen. Ich fand, ja, also mich hat das auch dieses Step Management einfach überzeugt. Es klappt halt einfach viel, viel besser, da irgendwie zu navigieren und das in in einer übersichtlichen, in einem übersichtlichen Stadium zu halten. Ich mag das. Jo. Dann machen wir mal kurz das die die Apple Nachlesen noch. Eigentlich gar gibt's gar nicht so viel zu zu sagen. Also die neuen MacBooks sind rausgekommen mit den M4 Chips und damit auch das erste Mal noch mit den Oder erst mal? Nee, war das auch 'n Mini drin? Der M4 MAX? Bin ich grade gar nicht sicher. Auf jeden Fall mit dem m vier max und ja, letztendlich kann man sagen, auf jeder Ebene besser als das davor. Der MacBook ever. Das mit Sicherheit, ja. Es ist optisch gleich geblieben. Das heißt, gibt's wieder in schwarz. Also das gibt's ja jetzt, weiß ich gar nicht, m zwei hat das, glaub ich, eingeführt, ne, diese Space Black Version davon. Die wir darf's ja ganz cool finden. Und genau, wenn man's vergleicht tatsächlich mit m eins Max, was ja schon irgendwie einen Riesensprung war damals und viele von uns auch immer noch happy sind mit ihren m eins Max Geräten, da war's, glaub ich, cpu mäßig fast eine Verdoppelung, also zweimal so schnell und auch gpu mäßig, grad nicht mehr ganz im Kopf. Aber ähnliche Sprünge. Also schon beeindruckend, dass auch auf der Architektur letztendlich gut, jetzt nicht von Version zu Version, sondern jetzt sind wir schon vier Versionen weiter, aber die auch relativ schnell hintereinander released wurden. Einfach noch mal mehr Power, wo ich schon langsam son bisschen Zweifel, also jetzt für unsere Dev Community beispielsweise haben wir ja, wenn jemand neu kommt, eigentlich immer so die ausgemeckste Version von so 'nem Gerät gekauft. Wo ich jetzt so langsam manchmal zweifel. Also ich glaub, es macht immer noch Sinn, weil's nachhaltig, also ne, wir können sie bis länger nutzen. Wir haben einen höheren Restwert. Wir können alles Mögliche damit machen. Natürlich jetzt auch grade so AI mäßig, aber ja, ich glaube, ganz viel davon braucht man im Alltag nicht und selbst wir Devs nutzen nicht die Leistung dieser dieser Powermaschinen. Da musst Du, glaube ich, schon irgendwie so Video Editing mit, weiß ich nicht, tausend acht k Ressourcen und gleichzeitig und so was. Dann kommt man vielleicht irgendwo an die Grenzen von dem, was sie können, aber vorher ist es nicht so. Da, also ich glaub, aber Apple hat das nicht jetzt irgendwie vor Kurzem angekündigt, dass die son bisschen mehr Fokus oder zumindest offener sein wollen, was so Gaming angeht. Ich glaub, da war jetzt irgendwie auch so die News vergangene Woche, dass die das ja fast eigentlich immer, also eine sehr schwierige schwierige Beziehung zu Gaming hatten. Viele viele Games gehen halt auf Mac Produkt nicht, aber es war von Apple auch nie so richtig gewollt, gewünscht, wie auch immer. Und dass sie da jetzt 'n bisschen offener werden und wahrscheinlich deswegen die Leistung sich ja doch dann am Ende grade für Gamer dann doch die Leistung sich ja doch dann am Ende gerade für Gamer dann doch bezahlbar macht. Ja. Also jetzt ist jetzt gefährliches Halbwissen, was ich darauf anne, also meins meins auch dazu. Weil ich würde mal behaupten von den den Werten, die da sind, müsst ihr das eigentlich sehr gut Ich glaube, es ist eher son Kompatibilitätsding. Also weißt Du irgendwie, was Microsoft immer dieses, gibt's das noch Direct X? Ist das immer noch 'n Ding? Oder heißt das heute auch schon alles ganz anders? Aber dann irgendwie die Metal Sachen auf Apple und das einfach irgendwie kompatibel zu machen, dass die Triple-A-S-Kenn da gut laufen. Und ich glaub, das war eher so, viel wurde vorher emuliert und deswegen brauchtest Du viel viel mehr Power, das irgendwie dann auf dem Mac darzustellen. Weil ich würde mal behaupten, von dem, was dort drin ist, kann man kann man schon viel machen. Genau und vielleicht das, was noch, also kleine Art Veränderungen, die es noch gibt, es gibt es ja jetzt auch mit Nanotextur das Display. Also das sind ja diese entspiegelten. Das gab's vorher nicht. Oh, so gut. Und hundertachtundzwanzig Gigabyte Arbeitsspeicher als Maximum, was irgendwie halt auch verrückt ist, wenn man sich das so so denkt. Aber ich meine, das ist glaube ich auch was, was dann, da kann man tatsächlich schon auch größere Modelle, also AI Modelle drauf oder LLM Modelle drauf laufen lassen. Lokal, was vielleicht in der Zukunft auch andere Wo ihr auch irgendwo letztens noch mal mal son Take gelesen habt, aber ja, ist egal. Ja, sagt doch ruhig. Hast Du die AI News eigentlich. Nein, aber diese sone Entwicklung von ne in der Cloud und alle und riesen und Grafikkarten, keine Ahnung was und sowas. Und wenn jetzt auf einmal schon auch die die lokalen Rechner so stark werden, ne, dass Du irgendwie dein dein Copilot Modell oder so was in gleiche Qualität halt lokal laufen lassen kannst, dass auch dann diese ganze Abhängigkeit zu, ne, alles muss in der Cloud skalieren und so was dann gar nicht mehr so groß ist, weil Du halt die lokale Rechenpower von all den einzelnen Maschinen irgendwie auch besser nutzen kannst. Wobei da natürlich immer die Frage ist, wie accessible ist es, ne, weil ich glaub, nicht jeder kann sich jetzt auch mal sonen sechstausend MacBook Pro, sechstausend Euro MacBook Pro leisten. Ja. Und da ist es natürlich praktisch dann diese gesamte Kapazität irgendwie noch in der Cloud zu haben und da irgendwie Computation auszuführen. Also solang solang Hardware nicht so günstig wird, dass ich ja, dass jeder einfach so auf 'nem günstigen Gerät leisten kann, ist, glaub ich, immer noch relevant. Aber was ich mir schon vorstellen kann, ist halt, dass mehr sone Richtung Kombination geht, was sie bei Apple Intelligence auch machen. So alles, was halt lokal gut geht, und dann halt Cloud. Aber das, ich denk schon, dass das auf jeden Fall die Last reduziert. Mhm. Deutlich sogar von Cloud. Ja. Jo, das war auch irgendwas, dass Sie Ihre AI Datencenter bald mit den m vier Chips upgraden wollen intern. Cool. Ja, ich erleb da auch irgendwie voll den Hype of Youtube irgendwie. Alle reden über den Mac mini m vier und so. Der wär so crazy. Hier, ich weiß immer nicht, was so der Ich hatte lange keinen Desktop PC in dem Sinne. Deswegen kann ich mich ja persönlich nicht so viel begeistern, aber ja. Dann kommt natürlich auch noch, das Studio müsste ja auch da noch bald kommen. Also das ist zumindest noch erwartet. Und das wäre tatsächlich das allererste Mal in sehr, sehr langer Zeit, dass alle Macs, die es gibt auf der gleichen Architektur oder die gleichen Prozessoren haben mit der ganzen m vier Familie. Mal gucken, ob es kommt. Spannend. Findest Du? Darfst ruhig ehrlich sein? Nein, nein, ich wüsste ja irgendwie kommentiert immer. So, ich entscheide, was die ganzen Zuhörer jetzt darüber denken. Das war spannend. Das war spannend. Okay, kommen wir zum nächsten spannenden Thema. Wenn wir grad schon 'n bisschen AI gestreift haben. Oasis. Oasis, ja. Es ging nicht diese Rockband aus den Neunzigern. Was war der letzte Song? O Wonderwall wahrscheinlich. Das kann doch bestimmt jeder auch noch auf Gitarre spielen und dann im Lagerfeuer singen. Also. Ich erfüll das Klischee. Schön. Genau. Nee, und das fand ich sehr, sehr spannend. Also vor zwei bis drei Monaten irgendwie hab ich ja auch über Game Engine geredet. Hast Du ja, glaub ich, erwähnt. Nein, Fabi hat's erwähnt. Und zwar da ging's ja Doom. Doom. Doom. In der vorletzten AI News ging's, glaub ich, das Diamond Diffusion Model. Da ging's Counter Strike Global Offensive, dass man mit zehn FPS spielen konnte, auch AI Model. Und tatsächlich haben sie's auch in der letzten AI News angeschnitten, aber ich fand's so interessant, dass wir's hier nur auch noch mal ansprechen müssen. Müssen alle wissen. Es müssen es müssen wirklich alle wissen, bisschen anderen Aspekt, den ich hier anbringe. Und zwar gibt's zwar ein neues AI Model und zwar Oasis von dem Unternehmen Deckard. Und die haben das erste spielbare Open World Spiel gemacht, das durch ein AI Model in Realtime erzeugt wird und bei dem Spiel geht es kein geringeres als Minecraft. Ich weiß nicht, Minecraft hast Du wahrscheinlich nicht gespielt, Dennis. Richtig. Garrell, war das bei dir 'n Ding eigentlich? Ah, das hab das in der Eifel gespielt. Da war fast noch nichts. Ei. Krass. Das war ich geil. Also bei mir war's kein Ding tatsächlich. Meine Freunde haben's irgendwie 'n bisschen gespielt, aber ich weiß nicht, so irgendwie Worldbuilding und Du baust einfach eine Welt auf und also Du kannst niemanden, Du kannst nicht besser sein als jemand anders und so. Das das hat mir gefehlt. Ich brauch immer das Kompetitive. Denen war's nicht so? Die größere Welt, oder? Was war's die größere Welt? Es geht ja Design, es muss ja geil aussehen. Also Ja, das kann ich nicht. Würdest Du ja sagen, jemand, 'n Künstler wär nicht besser als 'n anderer. Kunden Kunst ist subjektiv. Das kann man vielleicht sogar so sagen, Gerald. Ja, okay, das stimmt. Objektiv kann's nicht sagen, aber subjektiv schon. Ja. Nichtsdestotrotz, und zwar hast Du, glaub ich, beim letzten Mal gesagt, als ich über Doom geredet hab, dass ich son bisschen, ne, das bisschen schlecht geredet hab oder recht verhalten reagiert habe darauf. Genau, deswegen aber ich muss sagen, jetzt das, was ich gesehen hab, ist schon krass. Also das das Minecraft Ding, richtig wild. Und Okay, Walter. Ja? Kann ich, mach jetzt mal weiter. Okay. Heute dämpf ich das dann. Du dämpf ich das? Okay. Warte mal. Okay. Vielleicht dämpf ich das auch selbst gleich. Mal gucken. Also Erzähl davon. Hast Du's gespielt? Ja. Okay. Gabriel, Du hast es auch gespielt. Da haben wir ja, glaub ich, zusammen dran Man kann's online spielen übrigens, also für alle Zuhörer. Es gibt Genau, genau. Werden wir auch noch verlinken, den Link dazu. Und zwar genau, was was ich fand, also User Input funktioniert sehr, sehr gut. Das passt alles mit Maus und Tastatur, kann man sehr gut machen. Die Physik ist realistisch. Beleuchtung werden auch korrekt verstanden und was ich wirklich sehr beeindruckend fand, dass das Gameplay auch insgesamt richtig interpretiert wird. Also Minecraft, wie der Name sagt, Craft, ne, man Objekte. Das funktioniert dort. Man kann dann halt Sachen zusammensetzen und dann kannst Du dann aus irgendwie zwei Holz und drei Steinen kannst Du dann irgendwie sone Axt machen oder so. Dass wenn Du son son Zaunelement machst, dann verbindet das auch automatisch diese Elemente, diese ganzen Sachen mit Erfahrungspunkte, Leben und wie gut Du genährt bist, so. Das funktioniert auch alles, dass Du auch richtig Schaden bekommst. Du kannst essen und dann wirst Du dann wieder bisschen satter und so. Und was ich sehr, sehr interessant fand, dass zum Beispiel auch diese Abbaugeschwindigkeit abhängig von deinem Werkzeug funktioniert. Also in Minecraft ist es so, Du kannst das Spiel, Erde kannst auch, also ganz bisschen alles kannst Du ja mit der Hand einfach abbauen. So Erde, da brauchst Du irgendwie so drei Sekunden, so. Und wenn Du jetzt irgendwie Stein abbauen möchtest, da brauchst Du eben fünfzehn Sekunden. Aber hast Du eine eine eine Spitzhacke, kannst Du das innerhalb von 'ner Sekunde abbauen, so. Und das interessiert dir das auch alles richtig. Also das funktioniert wirklich gut, was ich sehr beeindruckend fand. Also die haben gesagt, ist eine technische Demo, aber es ist schon wirklich, wirklich crazy, was das dann alles drauf hat. Und natürlich hat es Einschränkungen, ne. Ich hab zu Beginn erwähnt, ich hab's mit Gange gespielt, ich hab auch 'n bisschen mit Fabi gespielt und man merkt schon, es es halluziniert hin und wieder, als irgendwann springt und auf einmal schwebt man in der Luft und denkt, wo bin ich? Was passiert da? Das Inventar, das man hat, das ändert sich manchmal random, also Du hast grad irgendwie, weiß nicht, zehn Holz eingesammelt, aber hast Du kein Holz mehr und denkst denk dir, hä, was soll das? Ein eine Sache fand ich total verrückt, da war irgendwie eine Blume und dann hat man sich umgedreht, da wurd da irgendwie 'n Huhn draus und aus dem Huhn war ganz scharf und dann irgendwie am Ende doch 'n Schwein und dann mit 'nem Creeper und der ist explodiert und hat dich umgebracht. Das ist irgendwie schon total crazy, was zum Beispiel passiert. Und was ich wirklich 'n bisschen schlimm fand, ist, also es läuft auf zwanzig FPS, was schon ganz gut ist. Wenn man sich dann aber schnell bewegt und dann irgendwie in eine andere Richtung guckt, dann ändert sich die Welt hinter einem auf einmal ganz plötzlich. Das heißt, Du hast eben vielleicht 'n Haus gebaut, aber man ist es weg, wenn Du dich wieder umdrehst. Und wenn Du dich schnell bewegst, kriegt man auch sone leicht Motion Sickness. Und das also ich hab gesagt, boah, mir ist 'n bisschen schlecht, muss dann ausmachen. Fabi hat auch gesagt, ja, bei mir ging's auch nicht so gut. Von daher Ich geh jetzt zwanzig fps oder? Ja und auch, weil's 'n bisschen so Legggy war und Du bist gesprungen und dann denkst Du, okay, ich fall jetzt und Du bist Du nicht gefallen und das irgendwie hat mein Gehirn mega verwirrt und mir wurd echt schlecht, dass er Ich hab son Noop Gehirn manchmal. Hör mal das mal in VR, dann springt los. Das ist aber das Folter, glaube ich. Das in VR ist Folter, ja. Ja, genau. Bevor ich zu meinem nächsten Punkt übergehe, willst Ja. Willst Du das jetzt irgendwie dämpfen oder hab ich's schon genug den Hast Du, glaube ich schon. Ich ich hab ich hab es sehr kurz eingespielt und ich hatte nur vorher von diesem Ding gelesen, dass es sein kann, wenn man sich umdreht, dass es dann die ganze Welt anders ist. Und dann habe ich mich da reingesetzt und hab mich einfach die ganze Zeit im Kreis gedreht und die Welt war immer komplett anders. Es war einfach alles hat sich die ganze Zeit, also komplett andere Szenerie. Also und dann habe ich gedacht, na Ja. Also, ich würd sagen, wenn man das so als technische Demo weiter im Kopf hat, sehr beeindruckend. Absolut. Genau, bis es natürlich zum ersten vorstelligen Spiel kommt, dauert's natürlich 'n bisschen. Aber auch da sei gesagt, ne, ich hab ja vor zwei Monaten oder so von Game Engine geredet. Jetzt haben wir son Open World Spiel, was noch mal eine viel krassere Stufe davon ist. Also wo sind wir dann jetzt in den nächsten paar Monaten, wenn nicht sogar Jahren? Also ich glaub, da ist man an was ganz Krassem dran und ich fand auch sehr interessant, was die in diesem Beitrag gesagt haben über die Zukunft. Und zwar sagen die, also wen das technisch noch mal krasser interessiert, hört euch die letzte AI News Folge an. Da erklärt das Fabi noch mal 'n bisschen tiefgreifender. Aber die sagen auf jeden Fall, es gibt ja diese Transformer und diese Transformer können inferieren. Und die sagen, das ist so quasi das fehlende Stück, das wirklich kompatibel zu machen, dass man das als game Engine nutzen kann. So, weil im Vergleich zu jetzt zum Beispiel Doom oder CSGO ist das alles irgendwie Action based und das ist jetzt so Transformer based. Und die sagen auch, wenn von von von der Firma edged dieser dieser SOhu Transformer ASIC rauskommt, dann haben die gesagt, dann können wir mit unserem Inferenzesystem unserer Engine und diesem speziellen Transformer, können wir sogar in vier k das alles laufen lassen, was ja schon sehr krass ist, weil's aktuell, glaube ich, auf siebenhundertzwanzig p läuft in zwanzig Frames pro Second. Genau, dieser dieser Sohoho Chip soll auch superkrass sein, weil das irgendwie eine halbe Million Tokens pro Sekunde irgendwie verarbeiten können kann. Das soll auf jeden Fall sehr, sehr, sehr krass sein. Genau und am Ende haben die noch mal sonen kleinen Performancevergleich aufgestellt zu anderen Text- zu Videomodellen, beispielsweise Sora oder Runway, die eine ähnliche Architektur haben und die insgesamt hundertmal schneller sind als sie, ne, weil also sie haben Echtzeit, zwanzig Frames pro Sekunde, das heißt alle null Komma null fünf Sekunden ein Frame, das generiert werden muss. Und man kennt es ja von den anderen Modellen, da braucht man ja teilweise für ein Sekunden Video irgendwie zehn bis zwanzig Sekunden, bis das fertig ist, ne. Also es ist auch schon allein für Text to Video sehr interessant, was Sie da geleistet haben. Sehr spannend, technischer Tiefgang, wie gesagt, in der letzten AI News Folge. Danke, Dave. Gerne, gerne. Nee, brauch ich gar nicht dämpfen, ist einfach beeindruckend. Das stimmt schon. Also wenn man sich einfach diese Entwicklung anguckt und wie schnell jetzt da gestreamt über den Browser Bilder generiert werden, so von woanders und so. Das ist schon, das ist schon verrückt. Ja. Und kann die natürlich auch anspielen. Hätte mich jetzt auch gewundert Dennis, wenn Du irgendwas Ermäßiges dämpfen willst, weil Du sonst dich immer so freust über so Sachen. Ja. Und das eher so anpreist und so. Ja, die größte Hypase. Genau, der Hypase. Hypase. Hypase. Mit mit mit Tabllet Agent hab ich letztens wieder was Gutes gebracht. Anyway, ich komme zu meinem noch Thema, ausstehenden Thema und zwar geht es den zehnten Dora Report und für diejenigen, die noch nicht gehört haben, was Dora ist. Dora steht für DevOps Research and Assessment. Man ist tatsächlich son ja Skala, Umfrage oder wie auch immer, also Google beziehungsweise die Google Cloud Abteilung hat das jetzt schon seit zehn Jahren gemacht, wo sie sein Research Programm, wo sie versuchen, Softwareentwicklungs Performance irgendwie messbar zu machen, also High Performance Teams irgendwie die Möglichkeit zu geben, sich weiterzuentwickeln und zu gucken, hey, was was sind die Faktoren, die ein erfolgreiches Softwareentwicklungsteam irgendwie ausmacht? Und es geht letztendlich dort vier große Punkte. Das eine ist so, wie lange braucht man von Änderungen, bis sie tatsächlich live sind? Also das heißt ja von ich hab Code committed und es ist dann in production. Dann ist die andere große Metrik, wie oft deployyt man Code zu Endsuern? Also das geht beides son bisschen auf die einfach auf den Durchsatz, den man so letztendlich hat. Dann geht es darum, wie oft haben Änderungen Fehler? Also das heißt, wenn man was in hat, wie häufig also führt es dazu, dass User ein schlechteres User eine schlechtere User Experience haben? Und dann letztendlich, wenn irgendwie mal ein Service ausgefallen ist oder man was kaputt gemacht hat, wie lange braucht man, das wieder zu reparieren? Und die letzten beiden Punkte eben zählen bisschen auf die Stabilität eines Softwaresystems ein und ja anhand dieser vier Faktoren haben sie eben über die Jahre ein Modell oder Modelle erstellt, eben messbar zu machen, wie wie gut die Entwickler Productivity ist. Ich find das grundsätzlich 'n super spannendes Thema. Ich hab bei uns immer das Gefühl, dass wir vielleicht 'n bisschen zu klein sind, also und auch zu, weiß ich nicht, zu die die Tasks irgendwie dann zu unterschiedlich. Also dass wir nicht so viel gleiches Zeug haben irgendwie, was da durchgeht. Es gibt auch heutzutage ein paar Plattformen, die das letztendlich ermöglichen, das zu messen. Teilweise auch noch andere Metriken obendrauf, wo man einem ne irgendwie sein GitHub aus dem Team und da kann man dann Diese Metriken werden halt automatisch extrahiert, so zu gucken, ne, wie war das mit Bugs und Hotfixes und ja Code Reviews. Man wurde gerevview und so weiter. Also einfach diese Metriken regiert und praktisch sone Performance dort darstellt. Aber grundsätzlich trotzdem vielleicht Anhand der Commits oder was? Also versuchte herauszufinden, was da committet wurde? Genau, anhand der Commits. Und je nachdem wie es sophisticated ist, gibt's dann auch noch. Also Du kannst es dann auch noch an sowas wie Linear anschließen. Du kannst da auch dein Slack dran machen. Also da da gibt's zwar diesen Tools, die das dann noch 'n bisschen aufbereiten aufbereiten und so was gibt's noch verschiedene, ja, Dinge, die die noch hinten dran kommen. Auf jeden Fall ist das 'n relativ großer Report, den man sich angucken kann und Sie haben aber noch zwei, drei so Key Take aways dafür veröffentlicht und auf einen möchte ich noch mal ein bisschen oder auf zwei möchte ich noch mal kurz 'n bisschen näher eingehen. Das eine ist natürlich auch hier, wie so viele Themen, AI. Und zwar ist es einfach so, dass tatsächlich mittlerweile eine sehr hohe Adaption von AI in der Softwareentwicklung irgendwie drin ist und es natürlich darum geht so, wie gut ist es am Ende für das, was wir machen? Und das ist eigentlich ganz interessant, weil das 'n bisschen nicht nur positiv ist und zwar ist es grundsätzlich so, dass zwar die meisten dort auch angeben, so ne, sie sind schneller in ihrer Produktivität, also in ihrem in ihrer Produktivität, im Schreiben von Code in ihrem Hauptding, so Code zu erstellen und das irgendwie das Softwareprojekt weiter zu bekommen. Aber obwohl das irgendwie schneller geht, ist das, was hinten rauskommt, nämlich einmal das, was dann tatsächlich veröffentlicht wird und die Stabilität der Software, die hinten rauskommt, ist über alles gesehen, was sie dort beobachten, schlechter geworden. Durch AI. Durch AI. Ach. Und das heißt, ihr was sie so daraus ziehen ist so, auch wenn das erst mal die Produktion irgendwie beschleunigt und man auch effektiver entwickeln kann, ist es trotzdem so, dass man halt aufpassen muss, ne. Weil ich mein, das ist ja auch 'n bisschen das, was wir selbst auch manchmal so 'n bisschen das Feedback essen. Man muss irgendwie häufig danach gucken und genau letztendlich auch da als Strategien, als Vorschlagsstrategien so, dass man halt sehr genau, also die einmal die Möglichkeit den Mitarbeitenden gibt, so viel zu explorieren, was das ganze AI Thema angeht, da eine höhere Sicherheit zu bekommen. Mhm. Und grade halt auch Tasks, die ne irgendwie langweilig oder repetitiv oder wie auch immer sind, möglichst viel von solchen Dingern zu automatisieren und mehr auch zu darüber zu diskutieren über so den Outcome von der ne. Das heißt, wenn man irgendwie was damit generiert hat, was ja völlig in Ordnung ist, aber da noch 'n bisschen mehr dann darüber zu sprechen, was ist was sind eventuell die Pitfalls, die da irgendwie mit reinkommen, da einfach 'n bisschen höhere Kommunikation noch zu haben über das, was da passiert. Mhm. Ja. Und das andere ist Muss jetzt denn wir ja irgendwas sagen? Ja, also nee, was ich interessant finde, ne, weil man dann hat man hat ja dann diese Steigerung der Produktivität, aber auf der anderen Seite ist es dann irgendwie anfälliger für Fehler und ist vielleicht ja nicht mehr so gut wartbar, dass man am Ende vielleicht doch irgendwie eine Einbuchung sogar in der Produktivität hat. So die gefühlte Produktivität ist höher, aber insgesamt für das Projekt, vielleicht hat man da sich doch 'n bisschen auch ins eigene Bein geschossen manchmal, wenn man das einfach nur zu hundert Prozent drauf irgendwie setzt. Ja. Ist ja eigentlich das Gleiche wie Cleancode schreiben, so, ne. Du kannst natürlich extrem viel ausbaden, wenn Du nicht drauf achtest, aber irgendwann hinten Ja, genau. Wird's dann Hinaome. Dramatisch. Mhm. Aber das war kein das war keine Survey. Das waren einfach Daten, die sie gesammelt haben über was auch immer? Ich glaub, das ist eine kombiniertes Ding. Also das ist ja, keine Ahnung, eine Art von Studie, die Sie haben. Also ich glaube schon, dass Sie auch Interviews machen Ja. Und dass Sie dass Sie Leute befragen und dass Sie aber auch sich diese harten Fakten angucken an Mit welchem Tool sie es jetzt dort messen? Keine Ahnung, weiß ich nicht. Klar. Wie das dann Also sie messen das dann schon bei Projekten von anderen Unternehmen. Auch, ja. Also ich glaube auch viel intern, aber auch bei bei anderen Großunternehmen, ja. Okay. Und genau. Cool. Ja und eine andere, aber das haben sie letztes Jahr eigentlich auch so schon groß raus rausgefunden. Und hört sich jetzt auch erst mal nicht so neu an, aber ist natürlich trotzdem wichtig, sich dem immer zu wissen bewusst zu werden, dass Developer Experience einfach ein extrem hoher Faktor ist für diese Metriken, ne. Also das heißt, wenn Devs happy sind und eine Umgebung haben, in der sie irgendwie gut entwickeln können, in der sie glücklich sind mit irgendwie vernünftiger Programmiersprache et cetera, dann ist das ist das eigentlich der größte Hebel, all diese Faktoren Stabilität et cetera irgendwie auf einen ja, auf 'n hohes Niveau zu bringen. True. Dave, hast Du eine gute Deff Experience bei uns? Ja, eine exzellente. Das war's zum Dora Report. Danke Dennis. Sehr gerne. Vielen Dank Dennis. Danke euch. Sind wir schon mal Danke sagen? Ja, sind wir. Vielen Dank fürs Zuhören. Feedback gerne ein Podcast at Programmier Punkt bar oder über unsere Webseite oder über Spotify oder über Mastodon, unseren großen Kanal da draußen auf Social Media. Letztes hatten wir sogar 'n Mastodon Kommentar. Echt? Ja, unter dem Social Media Post. Gut. Ja. Wird aktiv genutzt. Foldert uns jetzt auch. Danke dafür. Sehr gut. Sonst dürfen wir wie immer, ne, auf unsere ganzen Veranstaltungen hinweisen. Wir hatten grad den Flatter Day mega cool. Unsere erste ganzjährige Konferenzrat hat richtig viel Spaß gemacht. Vielen Dank für alle, die da waren. Ja, ich, da wollte ich auch nur sagen, also war es war wirklich, wirklich gut. Hat sehr viel Spaß gemacht. Danke an jede Person, die da war, auch alle, die über den Podcast gekommen sind. War eine richtig schöne Veranstaltung. Ich hab's richtig genossen. Danke auch an die Speaker. Es waren richtig gut. Und die Speaker waren natürlich alle sensationell. Geil. Jo. Und vor der, nach der nach der letzten Veranstaltung, vor der nächsten und am achtundzwanzigsten November haben wir nämlich einen Doppelvortrag über Data in Games, also Business Intelligence angelehnt. Das nächste Meet-up for free Bad Nauheim abends kommt gerne vorbei. Dave und Garet sind bestimmt bereit, euch an der Bar mit leckeren Drinks zu versorgen. Sehr sehr gerne. Und es gibt und es gibt auch Punsch. Ach, richtig. Das war das Ding. Punch. Das ist die die Punch Edition. Bisschen in Weihnachtsstimmung zu kommen, ne. Ja, richtig. Es ist ja auch, glaub ich, vor dem ersten Advent oder? Das Wochenende? Der Donnerstag. Auf jeden Fall schon voll weihnachtlich. Ja. Mega. Maximale Weihnachtsstimmung. Gibt's Spekulatius? Alles. Legohund, Vegacius, Glühwein, Wasser, die vorher Ein eins Weinangst. Weinsprung. Geschenke. Oh ja. Ja, gibt es immer. 'N alter, weißer Mann mit Rauschebart. Dann lass dir mal 'n bisschen in den Bart stehen bis dahin. Ja, und schaff mal alt. Vielen Dank, dass ihr dabei wart. Vielen Dank fürs Zuhören. Ab deine schöne Woche. Tschüssi. 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Wir haben schon Kalenderwoche sechsundvierzig im Jahr vierundzwanzig. Das geht so schnell. Ich bin Dennis. Schön, dass ihr wieder dabei seid.\n\nNeben mir im gleichen Raum.\n\nSpeaker 1: Dave aka Delasman Standing in der Dorfdiskothek.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das war aber 'n altes Geräusch, Dave. Wir brauchen neue Geräusche.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ah, ich hab ganz vergessen. Deswegen ist, wir hatten ja schon so viele Geräusche. Ich weiß gar nicht mehr, welche wir hatten. Ja. So, deswegen ich muss mir jetzt alle Folgen noch mal anhören, zu wissen, welche wir hatten, welche nicht.\n\nIch bin Da mach ich eins.\n\nSpeaker 2: Alter, das war cool. Dave, kannst Du nicht auf das hier, die ist?\n\nSpeaker 1: Auch gut. Was\n\nSpeaker 0: der Ansel macht?\n\nSpeaker 1: Der Ansel macht das richtig gut.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich kann's immer nur jedes zehnte Mai.\n\nSpeaker 0: Alter. Aber der Ansel kann's viel besser.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ey, das ist aber wirklich wie aus sonem Soundboard.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, schlecht. Und aus seinem Homeoffice zugeschaltet ist sonst der Liebe.\n\nSpeaker 2: Gareth. Dennis, ich wollt dich grad mal fragen, weißt Du die Kalenderwoche eigentlich immer auswendig oder musst Du\n\nSpeaker 0: vorher nach? Nein, guck sie immer drei Sekunden vorher noch mal schnell nach.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das wär crazy.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wo schaust Du die nach? Ich weiß nicht mal, wo.\n\nSpeaker 0: In unserem Google Kalender. Krass. Stehen sie oben links neben den Wochen. Ist relativ Ich\n\nSpeaker 2: frag mich, ob den Zuhörern das irgendwas irgendwie bringt, dass wir das in Kalenderwochen irgendwie angeben.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nee, wir nummerieren's halt einfach. Also wir hatten ja, als wir's angefangen haben zu nummerieren, da waren's halt wöchentlich. Da hat's noch mehr Sinn gemacht, da war's einfach durchnummeriert. Jetzt könnte man überlegen, ob man in eine andere Nummerierung übergeht. Okay.\n\nHast Du recht. Machen wir vielleicht nächstes Jahr. Oh. Alles neu.\n\nSpeaker 1: Neues Jahr, neues wir?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Guck\n\nSpeaker 0: mal, generell müssen wir den Podcast neu komplett neu erfinden, wenn hier zwei Gesichter sind, die vor fünf Jahren noch nicht existierten.\n\nSpeaker 1: Stimmt. Stimmt. Ich mein, wir haben dann viereinhalb Jahre.\n\nSpeaker 2: Wir haben da 'n Vierteljahrhundert rum. Nee. Nach dem Jahr ist das, doch, Vierteljahrhundert ist dann rum. Ey, guckt mich so an, als wisst ihr den nicht, wovon ich rede.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nee, wissen wir noch nicht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wir haben gar keine Ahnung, was Du grad so in den Vordergrund. Von der\n\nSpeaker 2: nächsten Jahr zwanzig fünfundzwanzig.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ach so.\n\nSpeaker 0: Fünfundzwanzig Jahre Podcast haben wir noch nicht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Nein, aber zweitausendfünfundzwanzig im Jahr. Das ist Jahrhundert.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ach so, das Jahrhundert. Okay. Alles klar. So, nennen wir den Podcast so. Meinst Du?\n\nEin Vierteljahrhundert Folge eins. So. Heute reden wir über Dora. Dann haben wir noch ein AI Model, über das wir reden, das ist Oasis. Ich wollte noch nachreichen, MacBooks, die sind ja letzte Woche hatten wir aufgenommen, bevor die m-vier-Mekbook-Max vorgestellt wurden.\n\nUnd, womit startest Du heute?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich starte mit Arc zwei Punkt null. Muss man Arc entschuldigen? Ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Okay.\n\nSpeaker 2: Arc ist ein jetzt nicht mehr so neuer Browser auf dem Horizont der Browsers. Aber ich glaube, er ist relativ gut durchgestartet. Ich glaub, ich hab ihn seit einem Jahr ungefähr. Er basiert auf Chromium, war damals nur auf für iOS, also vor allen Dingen für Macs eigentlich nur verfügbar. Und ja, sie haben gesagt, sie wollen son bisschen das Brosing revolutionieren und son paar neue Dinge einführen.\n\nWill ich gar nicht so tief eingehen, guckt ihn euch an. Er lohnt sich, find ihn sehr cool. Und was sie jetzt aber gemacht haben, sie haben arc zwei Punkt null. Und was das ist, ist nicht eine neue Version dieses Browsers, sondern sie sagen, das Produkt so wie es ist, bleibt so, wie es ist. Also es wird sich auch nicht groß was ändern.\n\nEs wird Bugfixis geben, aber es wird sich, es wird so bestehen bleiben.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und Securityfixis.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Endlich Das hatten\n\nSpeaker 0: wir in einer der letzten News Folgen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, stimmt. Ja. Ja. Und Arc zwei Punkt null soll eine neue Art von Browser sein. Und sie reden davon so, okay, die Leute, die vielleicht nicht so technisch sind, sondern 'n bisschen unversierter, was so das Browsern im Internet angeht, für die ist dieser Browser eigentlich zu kompliziert und sie wollen eine stark vereinfachte Version mithilfe von AI bauen, wo es wirklich darum geht, Du fragst, was Du willst und bekommst dann genau das.\n\nDas ist son bisschen das Motto, was sie da erreichen wollen. Also Du fragst zum Beispiel, zeig mir mal alle Videos von Steve Jobs, wo er krasse neue Dinge, neue Produkte gezeigt hat. Und anstatt dass Du dann irgendwie auf eine Google Seite kommst und tausend Dings sind, gibt er dir drei Tabs, wo Youtube Videos von genau diesen Dingen sind. Also das ist son bisschen, das sind so Previews, die sie zeigen. Die sagen auch, dass das noch nicht das Endprodukt ist, sondern sie viel ausprobieren.\n\nSo, aber am Ende soll es genau in diese Richtung gehen, so einen Browser zu haben, der, ja, dir das eigentlich auch eine neue Art des Browsers ermöglicht. Find ich sehr spannend. Bin ich sehr gespannt, was am Ende das Produkt sein wird.\n\nSpeaker 1: Mhm. Find ich eigentlich 'n ganz guten Take so, das das Browser im Internet noch mal anders zu denken. So, weil man ja irgendwie schon jetzt mit der Zeit 'n bisschen eingefahren ist und quasi sich da ja über die Jahrzehnte eigentlich nichts so krass weiterentwickelt hat, wie wir da rangehen. Also durch was wir sehen und so ist komplett anders. Aber wie wir das machen, ist gar nichts anderes.\n\nUnd eigentlich ist es ja genau das, was man damit will, wenn wir jetzt halt irgendwie 'n Video sehen. Weißt Du, wir gehen jetzt intuitiv auf Youtube und geben das dann ein, aber kannst ja auch eigentlich sagen, direkt, hey, ich möcht 'n Video dazu sehen, zack kriegst Du's. Schon spannend.\n\nSpeaker 2: Find ich auch.\n\nSpeaker 0: Aber habt ihr Ja, okay. Ich hab sehr selten auf Google nach 'nem Video gesucht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Nee, genau, sondern auf Youtube.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, okay. Auch das nicht. Aber ja, klar, richtig.\n\nSpeaker 2: Aber es geht, also Und dann\n\nSpeaker 0: kann ich sagen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das ist auch kein Produkt für dich und mich. Ich glaub, wir sind sehr, sehr happy mit Arc, sondern es geht deine Oma vielleicht.\n\nSpeaker 1: Soll das dann nicht eher Arc null Punkt fünf heißen? Weil's ja quasi die einfachere Version ist.\n\nSpeaker 2: Nee, nicht. Vielleicht find's ja so gut, dass es auch für uns am Ende interessant ist.\n\nSpeaker 1: Es ist\n\nSpeaker 2: ja nun gar nicht klar, was am Ende dieses Produkt sein wird. Das sind nur so, sag ich mal, Experimente, die Sie grad fahren.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, haben die schon angekündigt, wann die das ungefähr releasen wollen? Mhm. Okay. Alles noch Konzeptionsphase. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Aber ist schon, also ich find trotzdem lustig, ne, weil's ja eine relativ groß, also ich weiß gar nicht, wie groß sie sind, aber zumindest eine Firma ist, ne, die da irgendwie drum gebaut ist und Das ist die Browser Company. Browser Company heißt sie auch, genau. Und wie Sie so selbst gesagt haben, mit ARC, ne, haben sie eigentlich gar nicht das erreicht, was sie machen wollten so, weil sie irgendwie limitiert waren. Und es ist doch irgendwie relativ nah an 'nem Browser dann am Ende gewesen. Ja.\n\nUnd deswegen ist\n\nSpeaker 2: einfach damit jetzt auch noch mal neu einfach,\n\nSpeaker 1: ne.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das ist schon spannend, spannend.\n\nSpeaker 2: Vielleicht noch als Sidecut, weil darüber arm ich darauf, Theo von t drei. Von dem redet der Fabio Ofter, das ist 'n Youtuber, der früher mal bei Twitch gearbeitet hat. Hat einen kleinen angefangen mit dem CEO von dieser Firma, weil er meinte, ja, er findet das total doof, dass sie sagen, okay, der Browser bleibt so, wie er ist, weil er halt noch extrem viele Schwächen sieht und auch irgendwie Bugs gefunden hat und versucht, die mit denen zu fixen und das ist irgendwie nicht passiert.\n\nSpeaker 1: Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und dann halt gesagt hat so, ja, der Browser ist tot. Und dann gab's halt 'n kleinen Twitter Beef. Und sie haben sich aber auch irgendwie wohl ausgesprochen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ach, Moment. Ach, sag ich, Sie wollen den normalen Akt Bros auch gar nicht mehr weiterentwickeln? Ich würd Also, Bugfix ist son bisschen was, aber jetzt so featurerseite, ach, okay. Genau. Okay, das ist ja, okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das Ja, aber was vermisst Du denn so? Hast Du irgendwas, was Du vermisst?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich benutz eigentlich. Besser Du Ich bin zu unsicher. Bleib aber, es gibt 'n alten Chrome.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich mein, es gibt schon noch 'n paar Features, die, glaub ich, schon werden, die nicht unespannen sind, so was wie, es gibt ja, Moment, vertikales Blitz, Horizontale gibt's aber zum Beispiel nicht. Und das ist, sind dann so Sachen, ja, warum eigentlich nicht? Wär es wär vielleicht auch spannend. Und ja, das wird halt einfach nicht kommen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Ja, ich kann an der Stelle nur noch mal wiederholen, ich war ja ein sehr überzeugter Chrome Nutzer und hier im Podcast haben wir Fabi und Sebi sehr früh schon immer promotet und haben gesagt, sie nutzen nur noch das. Ich hab's dann irgendwann ausprobiert. Ich bin tatsächlich dort hängen geblieben, also ich mag die Experience. Und ich glaube eigentlich, der der große Unterschied ist es, also für mich ist einfach nur die Meerfläche, die man hat.\n\nEs sieht so appia aus, Mhm. Weil die halt, ne, mit Taskleistern Tab bauen und so was das einfach wegreduzieren und ich relativ oft auch diese Seitenleiste irgendwie einklapp und Du hast halt einfach dann mehr so eine App Experience. Und ich glaub, das ist für mich tatsächlich schon der der Hauptunterschied, warum ich das Browser schöner finde in Anführungsstrichen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich war tatsächlich eher son bisschen überfordert. Aber man sieht auch viel Fläche so Zeug damit anfangen. So viel kann man auch nicht mal sehen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich fand, ja, also mich hat das auch dieses Step Management einfach überzeugt. Es klappt halt einfach viel, viel besser, da irgendwie zu navigieren und das in in einer übersichtlichen, in einem übersichtlichen Stadium zu halten. Ich mag das.\n\nSpeaker 0: Jo. Dann machen wir mal kurz das die die Apple Nachlesen noch. Eigentlich gar gibt's gar nicht so viel zu zu sagen. Also die neuen MacBooks sind rausgekommen mit den M4 Chips und damit auch das erste Mal noch mit den Oder erst mal? Nee, war das auch 'n Mini drin?\n\nDer M4 MAX? Bin ich grade gar nicht sicher. Auf jeden Fall mit dem m vier max und ja, letztendlich kann man sagen, auf jeder Ebene besser als das davor.\n\nSpeaker 2: Der MacBook ever.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das mit Sicherheit, ja. Es ist optisch gleich geblieben. Das heißt, gibt's wieder in schwarz. Also das gibt's ja jetzt, weiß ich gar nicht, m zwei hat das, glaub ich, eingeführt, ne, diese Space Black Version davon. Die wir darf's ja ganz cool finden.\n\nUnd genau, wenn man's vergleicht tatsächlich mit m eins Max, was ja schon irgendwie einen Riesensprung war damals und viele von uns auch immer noch happy sind mit ihren m eins Max Geräten, da war's, glaub ich, cpu mäßig fast eine Verdoppelung, also zweimal so schnell und auch gpu mäßig, grad nicht mehr ganz im Kopf. Aber ähnliche Sprünge. Also schon beeindruckend, dass auch auf der Architektur letztendlich gut, jetzt nicht von Version zu Version, sondern jetzt sind wir schon vier Versionen weiter, aber die auch relativ schnell hintereinander released wurden. Einfach noch mal mehr Power, wo ich schon langsam son bisschen Zweifel, also jetzt für unsere Dev Community beispielsweise haben wir ja, wenn jemand neu kommt, eigentlich immer so die ausgemeckste Version von so 'nem Gerät gekauft. Wo ich jetzt so langsam manchmal zweifel.\n\nAlso ich glaub, es macht immer noch Sinn, weil's nachhaltig, also ne, wir können sie bis länger nutzen. Wir haben einen höheren Restwert. Wir können alles Mögliche damit machen. Natürlich jetzt auch grade so AI mäßig, aber ja, ich glaube, ganz viel davon braucht man im Alltag nicht und selbst wir Devs nutzen nicht die Leistung dieser dieser Powermaschinen. Da musst Du, glaube ich, schon irgendwie so Video Editing mit, weiß ich nicht, tausend acht k Ressourcen und gleichzeitig und so was.\n\nDann kommt man vielleicht irgendwo an die Grenzen von dem, was sie können, aber vorher ist es nicht so.\n\nSpeaker 1: Da, also ich glaub, aber Apple hat das nicht jetzt irgendwie vor Kurzem angekündigt, dass die son bisschen mehr Fokus oder zumindest offener sein wollen, was so Gaming angeht. Ich glaub, da war jetzt irgendwie auch so die News vergangene Woche, dass die das ja fast eigentlich immer, also eine sehr schwierige schwierige Beziehung zu Gaming hatten. Viele viele Games gehen halt auf Mac Produkt nicht, aber es war von Apple auch nie so richtig gewollt, gewünscht, wie auch immer. Und dass sie da jetzt 'n bisschen offener werden und wahrscheinlich deswegen die Leistung sich ja doch dann am Ende grade für Gamer dann doch die Leistung sich ja doch dann am Ende gerade für Gamer dann doch bezahlbar macht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Also jetzt ist jetzt gefährliches Halbwissen, was ich darauf anne, also meins meins auch dazu. Weil ich würde mal behaupten von den den Werten, die da sind, müsst ihr das eigentlich sehr gut Ich glaube, es ist eher son Kompatibilitätsding. Also weißt Du irgendwie, was Microsoft immer dieses, gibt's das noch Direct X? Ist das immer noch 'n Ding?\n\nOder heißt das heute auch schon alles ganz anders? Aber dann irgendwie die Metal Sachen auf Apple und das einfach irgendwie kompatibel zu machen, dass die Triple-A-S-Kenn da gut laufen. Und ich glaub, das war eher so, viel wurde vorher emuliert und deswegen brauchtest Du viel viel mehr Power, das irgendwie dann auf dem Mac darzustellen. Weil ich würde mal behaupten, von dem, was dort drin ist, kann man kann man schon viel machen. Genau und vielleicht das, was noch, also kleine Art Veränderungen, die es noch gibt, es gibt es ja jetzt auch mit Nanotextur das Display.\n\nAlso das sind ja diese entspiegelten. Das gab's vorher nicht. Oh, so gut. Und hundertachtundzwanzig Gigabyte Arbeitsspeicher als Maximum, was irgendwie halt auch verrückt ist, wenn man sich das so so denkt. Aber ich meine, das ist glaube ich auch was, was dann, da kann man tatsächlich schon auch größere Modelle, also AI Modelle drauf oder LLM Modelle drauf laufen lassen.\n\nLokal, was vielleicht in der Zukunft auch andere Wo ihr auch irgendwo letztens noch mal mal son Take gelesen habt, aber ja, ist egal. Ja, sagt doch ruhig. Hast Du die AI News eigentlich. Nein, aber diese sone Entwicklung von ne in der Cloud und alle und riesen und Grafikkarten, keine Ahnung was und sowas. Und wenn jetzt auf einmal schon auch die die lokalen Rechner so stark werden, ne, dass Du irgendwie dein dein Copilot Modell oder so was in gleiche Qualität halt lokal laufen lassen kannst, dass auch dann diese ganze Abhängigkeit zu, ne, alles muss in der Cloud skalieren und so was dann gar nicht mehr so groß ist, weil Du halt die lokale Rechenpower von all den einzelnen Maschinen irgendwie auch besser nutzen kannst.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wobei da natürlich immer die Frage ist, wie accessible ist es, ne, weil ich glaub, nicht jeder kann sich jetzt auch mal sonen sechstausend MacBook Pro, sechstausend Euro MacBook Pro leisten. Ja. Und da ist es natürlich praktisch dann diese gesamte Kapazität irgendwie noch in der Cloud zu haben und da irgendwie Computation auszuführen. Also solang solang Hardware nicht so günstig wird, dass ich ja, dass jeder einfach so auf 'nem günstigen Gerät leisten kann, ist, glaub ich, immer noch relevant.\n\nSpeaker 2: Aber was ich mir schon vorstellen kann, ist halt, dass mehr sone Richtung Kombination geht, was sie bei Apple Intelligence auch machen. So alles, was halt lokal gut geht, und dann halt Cloud. Aber das, ich denk schon, dass das auf jeden Fall die Last reduziert. Mhm. Deutlich sogar von Cloud.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Jo, das war auch irgendwas, dass Sie Ihre AI Datencenter bald mit den m vier Chips upgraden wollen intern. Cool.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, ich erleb da auch irgendwie voll den Hype of Youtube irgendwie. Alle reden über den Mac mini m vier und so. Der wär so crazy.\n\nSpeaker 0: Hier, ich weiß immer nicht, was so der Ich hatte lange keinen Desktop PC in dem Sinne. Deswegen kann ich mich ja persönlich nicht so viel begeistern, aber ja. Dann kommt natürlich auch noch, das Studio müsste ja auch da noch bald kommen. Also das ist zumindest noch erwartet. Und das wäre tatsächlich das allererste Mal in sehr, sehr langer Zeit, dass alle Macs, die es gibt auf der gleichen Architektur oder die gleichen Prozessoren haben mit der ganzen m vier Familie.\n\nMal gucken, ob es kommt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Spannend. Findest Du?\n\nSpeaker 0: Darfst ruhig ehrlich sein?\n\nSpeaker 2: Nein, nein,\n\nSpeaker 1: ich wüsste ja irgendwie kommentiert immer. So, ich entscheide, was die ganzen Zuhörer jetzt darüber denken. Das war spannend.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das war spannend. Okay, kommen wir zum nächsten spannenden Thema. Wenn wir grad schon 'n bisschen AI gestreift haben. Oasis.\n\nSpeaker 1: Oasis, ja. Es ging nicht diese Rockband aus den Neunzigern.\n\nSpeaker 0: Was war der letzte Song?\n\nSpeaker 1: O Wonderwall wahrscheinlich. Das kann doch bestimmt jeder auch noch auf Gitarre spielen und dann im Lagerfeuer singen. Also. Ich erfüll das Klischee. Schön.\n\nGenau. Nee, und das fand ich sehr, sehr spannend. Also vor zwei bis drei Monaten irgendwie hab ich ja auch über Game Engine geredet. Hast Du ja, glaub ich, erwähnt. Nein, Fabi hat's erwähnt.\n\nUnd zwar da ging's ja Doom.\n\nSpeaker 0: Doom.\n\nSpeaker 1: Doom. In der vorletzten AI News ging's, glaub ich, das Diamond Diffusion Model. Da ging's Counter Strike Global Offensive, dass man mit zehn FPS spielen konnte, auch AI Model. Und tatsächlich haben sie's auch in der letzten AI News angeschnitten, aber ich fand's so interessant, dass wir's hier nur auch noch mal ansprechen müssen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Müssen alle wissen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Es müssen es müssen wirklich alle wissen, bisschen anderen Aspekt, den ich hier anbringe. Und zwar gibt's zwar ein neues AI Model und zwar Oasis von dem Unternehmen Deckard. Und die haben das erste spielbare Open World Spiel gemacht, das durch ein AI Model in Realtime erzeugt wird und bei dem Spiel geht es kein geringeres als Minecraft. Ich weiß nicht, Minecraft hast Du wahrscheinlich nicht gespielt, Dennis.\n\nSpeaker 0: Richtig.\n\nSpeaker 1: Garrell, war das bei dir 'n Ding eigentlich?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ah, das hab das in der Eifel gespielt. Da war fast noch nichts.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ei. Krass.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das war ich geil.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also bei mir war's kein Ding tatsächlich. Meine Freunde haben's irgendwie 'n bisschen gespielt, aber ich weiß nicht, so irgendwie Worldbuilding und Du baust einfach eine Welt auf und also Du kannst niemanden, Du kannst nicht besser sein als jemand anders und so. Das das hat mir gefehlt. Ich brauch immer das Kompetitive. Denen war's nicht so?\n\nSpeaker 0: Die größere Welt, oder? Was war's die\n\nSpeaker 1: größere Welt?\n\nSpeaker 2: Es geht ja Design, es muss ja geil aussehen. Also\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, das kann ich nicht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Würdest Du ja sagen, jemand, 'n Künstler wär nicht besser als 'n anderer.\n\nSpeaker 1: Kunden Kunst ist subjektiv.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das kann man vielleicht sogar so sagen, Gerald.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, okay, das stimmt. Objektiv kann's nicht sagen, aber subjektiv schon.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Nichtsdestotrotz, und zwar hast Du, glaub ich, beim letzten Mal gesagt, als ich über Doom geredet hab, dass ich son bisschen, ne, das bisschen schlecht geredet hab oder recht verhalten reagiert habe darauf. Genau, deswegen aber ich muss sagen, jetzt das, was ich gesehen hab, ist schon krass. Also das das Minecraft Ding, richtig wild. Und\n\nSpeaker 0: Okay, Walter.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja? Kann\n\nSpeaker 0: ich, mach jetzt mal weiter. Okay. Heute dämpf ich das dann.\n\nSpeaker 1: Du dämpf ich das? Okay. Warte mal. Okay. Vielleicht dämpf ich das auch selbst gleich.\n\nMal gucken. Also Erzähl davon. Hast Du's gespielt? Ja. Okay.\n\nGabriel, Du hast es auch gespielt. Da haben wir ja, glaub ich, zusammen dran\n\nSpeaker 2: Man kann's online spielen übrigens, also für alle Zuhörer.\n\nSpeaker 1: Es gibt Genau, genau. Werden wir auch noch verlinken, den Link dazu. Und zwar genau, was was ich fand, also User Input funktioniert sehr, sehr gut. Das passt alles mit Maus und Tastatur, kann man sehr gut machen. Die Physik ist realistisch.\n\nBeleuchtung werden auch korrekt verstanden und was ich wirklich sehr beeindruckend fand, dass das Gameplay auch insgesamt richtig interpretiert wird. Also Minecraft, wie der Name sagt, Craft, ne, man Objekte. Das funktioniert dort. Man kann dann halt Sachen zusammensetzen und dann kannst Du dann aus irgendwie zwei Holz und drei Steinen kannst Du dann irgendwie sone Axt machen oder so. Dass wenn Du son son Zaunelement machst, dann verbindet das auch automatisch diese Elemente, diese ganzen Sachen mit Erfahrungspunkte, Leben und wie gut Du genährt bist, so.\n\nDas funktioniert auch alles, dass Du auch richtig Schaden bekommst. Du kannst essen und dann wirst Du dann wieder bisschen satter und so. Und was ich sehr, sehr interessant fand, dass zum Beispiel auch diese Abbaugeschwindigkeit abhängig von deinem Werkzeug funktioniert. Also in Minecraft ist es so, Du kannst das Spiel, Erde kannst auch, also ganz bisschen alles kannst Du ja mit der Hand einfach abbauen. So Erde, da brauchst Du irgendwie so drei Sekunden, so.\n\nUnd wenn Du jetzt irgendwie Stein abbauen möchtest, da brauchst Du eben fünfzehn Sekunden. Aber hast Du eine eine eine Spitzhacke, kannst Du das innerhalb von 'ner Sekunde abbauen, so. Und das interessiert dir das auch alles richtig. Also das funktioniert wirklich gut, was ich sehr beeindruckend fand. Also die haben gesagt, ist eine technische Demo, aber es ist schon wirklich, wirklich crazy, was das dann alles drauf hat.\n\nUnd natürlich hat es Einschränkungen, ne. Ich hab zu Beginn erwähnt, ich hab's mit Gange gespielt, ich hab auch 'n bisschen mit Fabi gespielt und man merkt schon, es es halluziniert hin und wieder, als irgendwann springt und auf einmal schwebt man in der Luft und denkt, wo bin ich? Was passiert da? Das Inventar, das man hat, das ändert sich manchmal random, also Du hast grad irgendwie, weiß nicht, zehn Holz eingesammelt, aber hast Du kein Holz mehr und denkst denk dir, hä, was soll das? Ein eine Sache fand ich total verrückt, da war irgendwie eine Blume und dann hat man sich umgedreht, da wurd da irgendwie 'n Huhn draus und aus dem Huhn war ganz scharf und dann irgendwie am Ende doch 'n Schwein und dann mit 'nem Creeper und der ist explodiert und hat dich umgebracht.\n\nDas ist irgendwie schon total crazy, was zum Beispiel passiert. Und was ich wirklich 'n bisschen schlimm fand, ist, also es läuft auf zwanzig FPS, was schon ganz gut ist. Wenn man sich dann aber schnell bewegt und dann irgendwie in eine andere Richtung guckt, dann ändert sich die Welt hinter einem auf einmal ganz plötzlich. Das heißt, Du hast eben vielleicht 'n Haus gebaut, aber man ist es weg, wenn Du dich wieder umdrehst. Und wenn Du dich schnell bewegst, kriegt man auch sone leicht Motion Sickness.\n\nUnd das also ich hab gesagt, boah, mir ist 'n bisschen schlecht, muss dann ausmachen. Fabi hat auch gesagt, ja, bei mir ging's auch nicht so gut. Von daher Ich geh jetzt\n\nSpeaker 2: zwanzig fps oder?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja und auch, weil's 'n bisschen so Legggy war und Du bist gesprungen und dann denkst Du, okay, ich fall jetzt und Du bist Du nicht gefallen und das irgendwie hat mein Gehirn mega verwirrt und mir wurd echt schlecht, dass er Ich hab son Noop Gehirn manchmal.\n\nSpeaker 2: Hör mal das mal in VR, dann\n\nSpeaker 1: springt los. Das ist aber das Folter, glaube ich. Das in VR ist Folter, ja. Ja, genau. Bevor ich zu meinem nächsten Punkt übergehe, willst Ja.\n\nWillst Du das jetzt irgendwie dämpfen oder hab ich's schon genug\n\nSpeaker 0: den Hast Du, glaube ich schon.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich ich\n\nSpeaker 0: hab ich hab es sehr kurz eingespielt und ich hatte nur vorher von diesem Ding gelesen, dass es sein kann, wenn man sich umdreht, dass es dann die ganze Welt anders ist. Und dann habe ich mich da reingesetzt und hab mich einfach die ganze Zeit im Kreis gedreht und die Welt war immer komplett anders. Es war einfach alles hat sich die ganze Zeit, also komplett andere Szenerie. Also und dann habe ich gedacht, na Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also, ich würd sagen, wenn man das so als technische Demo weiter im Kopf hat, sehr beeindruckend.\n\nSpeaker 0: Absolut.\n\nSpeaker 1: Genau, bis es natürlich zum ersten vorstelligen Spiel kommt, dauert's natürlich 'n bisschen. Aber auch da sei gesagt, ne, ich hab ja vor zwei Monaten oder so von Game Engine geredet. Jetzt haben wir son Open World Spiel, was noch mal eine viel krassere Stufe davon ist. Also wo sind wir dann jetzt in den nächsten paar Monaten, wenn nicht sogar Jahren? Also ich glaub, da ist man an was ganz Krassem dran und ich fand auch sehr interessant, was die in diesem Beitrag gesagt haben über die Zukunft.\n\nUnd zwar sagen die, also wen das technisch noch mal krasser interessiert, hört euch die letzte AI News Folge an. Da erklärt das Fabi noch mal 'n bisschen tiefgreifender. Aber die sagen auf jeden Fall, es gibt ja diese Transformer und diese Transformer können inferieren. Und die sagen, das ist so quasi das fehlende Stück, das wirklich kompatibel zu machen, dass man das als game Engine nutzen kann. So, weil im Vergleich zu jetzt zum Beispiel Doom oder CSGO ist das alles irgendwie Action based und das ist jetzt so Transformer based.\n\nUnd die sagen auch, wenn von von von der Firma edged dieser dieser SOhu Transformer ASIC rauskommt, dann haben die gesagt, dann können wir mit unserem Inferenzesystem unserer Engine und diesem speziellen Transformer, können wir sogar in vier k das alles laufen lassen, was ja schon sehr krass ist, weil's aktuell, glaube ich, auf siebenhundertzwanzig p läuft in zwanzig Frames pro Second. Genau, dieser dieser Sohoho Chip soll auch superkrass sein, weil das irgendwie eine halbe Million Tokens pro Sekunde irgendwie verarbeiten können kann. Das soll auf jeden Fall sehr, sehr, sehr krass sein. Genau und am Ende haben die noch mal sonen kleinen Performancevergleich aufgestellt zu anderen Text- zu Videomodellen, beispielsweise Sora oder Runway, die eine ähnliche Architektur haben und die insgesamt hundertmal schneller sind als sie, ne, weil also sie haben Echtzeit, zwanzig Frames pro Sekunde, das heißt alle null Komma null fünf Sekunden ein Frame, das generiert werden muss. Und man kennt es ja von den anderen Modellen, da braucht man ja teilweise für ein Sekunden Video irgendwie zehn bis zwanzig Sekunden, bis das fertig ist, ne.\n\nAlso es ist auch schon allein für Text to Video sehr interessant, was Sie da geleistet haben. Sehr spannend, technischer Tiefgang, wie gesagt, in der letzten AI News Folge.\n\nSpeaker 0: Danke, Dave. Gerne, gerne. Nee, brauch ich gar nicht dämpfen, ist einfach beeindruckend. Das stimmt schon. Also wenn man sich einfach diese Entwicklung anguckt und wie schnell jetzt da gestreamt über den Browser Bilder generiert werden, so von woanders und so.\n\nDas ist schon, das ist schon verrückt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Und kann die natürlich auch anspielen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Hätte mich jetzt auch gewundert Dennis, wenn Du irgendwas Ermäßiges dämpfen willst, weil Du sonst dich immer so freust über so Sachen. Ja. Und das eher so anpreist und so.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, die größte Hypase.\n\nSpeaker 2: Genau, der Hypase.\n\nSpeaker 0: Hypase. Hypase. Mit mit mit Tabllet Agent hab ich letztens wieder was Gutes gebracht. Anyway, ich komme zu meinem noch Thema, ausstehenden Thema und zwar geht es den zehnten Dora Report und für diejenigen, die noch nicht gehört haben, was Dora ist. Dora steht für DevOps Research and Assessment.\n\nMan ist tatsächlich son ja Skala, Umfrage oder wie auch immer, also Google beziehungsweise die Google Cloud Abteilung hat das jetzt schon seit zehn Jahren gemacht, wo sie sein Research Programm, wo sie versuchen, Softwareentwicklungs Performance irgendwie messbar zu machen, also High Performance Teams irgendwie die Möglichkeit zu geben, sich weiterzuentwickeln und zu gucken, hey, was was sind die Faktoren, die ein erfolgreiches Softwareentwicklungsteam irgendwie ausmacht? Und es geht letztendlich dort vier große Punkte. Das eine ist so, wie lange braucht man von Änderungen, bis sie tatsächlich live sind? Also das heißt ja von ich hab Code committed und es ist dann in production. Dann ist die andere große Metrik, wie oft deployyt man Code zu Endsuern?\n\nAlso das geht beides son bisschen auf die einfach auf den Durchsatz, den man so letztendlich hat. Dann geht es darum, wie oft haben Änderungen Fehler? Also das heißt, wenn man was in hat, wie häufig also führt es dazu, dass User ein schlechteres User eine schlechtere User Experience haben? Und dann letztendlich, wenn irgendwie mal ein Service ausgefallen ist oder man was kaputt gemacht hat, wie lange braucht man, das wieder zu reparieren? Und die letzten beiden Punkte eben zählen bisschen auf die Stabilität eines Softwaresystems ein und ja anhand dieser vier Faktoren haben sie eben über die Jahre ein Modell oder Modelle erstellt, eben messbar zu machen, wie wie gut die Entwickler Productivity ist.\n\nIch find das grundsätzlich 'n super spannendes Thema. Ich hab bei uns immer das Gefühl, dass wir vielleicht 'n bisschen zu klein sind, also und auch zu, weiß ich nicht, zu die die Tasks irgendwie dann zu unterschiedlich. Also dass wir nicht so viel gleiches Zeug haben irgendwie, was da durchgeht. Es gibt auch heutzutage ein paar Plattformen, die das letztendlich ermöglichen, das zu messen. Teilweise auch noch andere Metriken obendrauf, wo man einem ne irgendwie sein GitHub aus dem Team und da kann man dann Diese Metriken werden halt automatisch extrahiert, so zu gucken, ne, wie war das mit Bugs und Hotfixes und ja Code Reviews.\n\nMan wurde gerevview und so weiter. Also einfach diese Metriken regiert und praktisch sone Performance dort darstellt. Aber grundsätzlich trotzdem vielleicht\n\nSpeaker 2: Anhand der Commits oder was? Also versuchte herauszufinden, was da committet wurde?\n\nSpeaker 0: Genau, anhand der Commits. Und je nachdem wie es sophisticated ist, gibt's dann auch noch. Also Du kannst es dann auch noch an sowas wie Linear anschließen. Du kannst da auch dein Slack dran machen. Also da da gibt's zwar diesen Tools, die das dann noch 'n bisschen aufbereiten aufbereiten und so was gibt's noch verschiedene, ja, Dinge, die die noch hinten dran kommen.\n\nAuf jeden Fall ist das 'n relativ großer Report, den man sich angucken kann und Sie haben aber noch zwei, drei so Key Take aways dafür veröffentlicht und auf einen möchte ich noch mal ein bisschen oder auf zwei möchte ich noch mal kurz 'n bisschen näher eingehen. Das eine ist natürlich auch hier, wie so viele Themen, AI. Und zwar ist es einfach so, dass tatsächlich mittlerweile eine sehr hohe Adaption von AI in der Softwareentwicklung irgendwie drin ist und es natürlich darum geht so, wie gut ist es am Ende für das, was wir machen? Und das ist eigentlich ganz interessant, weil das 'n bisschen nicht nur positiv ist\n\nSpeaker 1: und\n\nSpeaker 0: zwar ist es grundsätzlich so, dass zwar die meisten dort auch angeben, so ne, sie sind schneller in ihrer Produktivität, also in ihrem in ihrer Produktivität, im Schreiben von Code in ihrem Hauptding, so Code zu erstellen und das irgendwie das Softwareprojekt weiter zu bekommen. Aber obwohl das irgendwie schneller geht, ist das, was hinten rauskommt, nämlich einmal das, was dann tatsächlich veröffentlicht wird und die Stabilität der Software, die hinten rauskommt, ist über alles gesehen, was sie dort beobachten, schlechter geworden.\n\nSpeaker 2: Durch AI.\n\nSpeaker 0: Durch AI. Ach. Und das heißt, ihr was sie so daraus ziehen ist so, auch wenn das erst mal die Produktion irgendwie beschleunigt und man auch effektiver entwickeln kann, ist es trotzdem so, dass man halt aufpassen muss, ne. Weil ich mein, das ist ja auch 'n bisschen das, was wir selbst auch manchmal so 'n bisschen das Feedback essen. Man muss irgendwie häufig danach gucken und genau letztendlich auch da als Strategien, als Vorschlagsstrategien so, dass man halt sehr genau, also die einmal die Möglichkeit den Mitarbeitenden gibt, so viel zu explorieren, was das ganze AI Thema angeht, da eine höhere Sicherheit zu bekommen.\n\nMhm. Und grade halt auch Tasks, die ne irgendwie langweilig oder repetitiv oder wie auch immer sind, möglichst viel von solchen Dingern zu automatisieren und mehr auch zu darüber zu diskutieren über so den Outcome von der ne. Das heißt, wenn man irgendwie was damit generiert hat, was ja völlig in Ordnung ist, aber da noch 'n bisschen mehr dann darüber zu sprechen, was ist was sind eventuell die Pitfalls, die da irgendwie mit reinkommen, da einfach 'n bisschen höhere Kommunikation noch zu haben über das, was da passiert. Mhm. Ja.\n\nUnd das andere ist Muss jetzt denn wir ja irgendwas sagen?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, also nee, was ich interessant finde, ne, weil man dann hat man hat ja dann diese Steigerung der Produktivität, aber auf der anderen Seite ist es dann irgendwie anfälliger für Fehler und ist vielleicht ja nicht mehr so gut wartbar, dass man am Ende vielleicht doch irgendwie eine Einbuchung sogar in der Produktivität hat. So die gefühlte Produktivität ist höher, aber insgesamt für das Projekt, vielleicht hat man da sich doch 'n bisschen auch ins eigene Bein geschossen manchmal, wenn man das einfach nur zu hundert Prozent drauf irgendwie setzt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Ist ja eigentlich das Gleiche wie Cleancode schreiben, so, ne. Du kannst natürlich extrem viel ausbaden, wenn Du nicht drauf achtest, aber irgendwann hinten Ja, genau. Wird's dann Hinaome. Dramatisch.\n\nMhm. Aber das war kein das war keine Survey. Das waren einfach Daten, die sie gesammelt haben über was auch\n\nSpeaker 0: immer? Ich glaub, das ist eine kombiniertes Ding. Also das ist ja, keine Ahnung, eine Art von Studie, die Sie haben. Also ich glaube schon, dass Sie auch Interviews machen Ja. Und dass Sie dass Sie Leute befragen und dass Sie aber auch sich diese harten Fakten angucken an Mit welchem Tool sie es jetzt dort messen?\n\nKeine Ahnung, weiß ich nicht. Klar. Wie das dann\n\nSpeaker 2: Also sie messen das dann schon bei Projekten von anderen Unternehmen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Auch, ja. Also ich glaube auch viel intern, aber auch bei bei anderen Großunternehmen, ja. Okay. Und genau. Cool.\n\nJa und eine andere, aber das haben sie letztes Jahr eigentlich auch so schon groß raus rausgefunden. Und hört sich jetzt auch erst mal nicht so neu an, aber ist natürlich trotzdem wichtig, sich dem immer zu wissen bewusst zu werden, dass Developer Experience einfach ein extrem hoher Faktor ist für diese Metriken, ne. Also das heißt, wenn Devs happy sind und eine Umgebung haben, in der sie irgendwie gut entwickeln können, in der sie glücklich sind mit irgendwie vernünftiger Programmiersprache et cetera, dann ist das ist das eigentlich der größte Hebel, all diese Faktoren Stabilität et cetera irgendwie auf einen ja, auf 'n hohes Niveau zu bringen. True.\n\nSpeaker 2: Dave, hast Du eine gute Deff Experience bei uns?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, eine exzellente.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das war's zum Dora Report.\n\nSpeaker 2: Danke Dennis.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sehr gerne.\n\nSpeaker 1: Vielen Dank Dennis.\n\nSpeaker 0: Danke euch. Sind wir schon mal Danke sagen? Ja, sind wir. Vielen Dank fürs Zuhören. Feedback gerne ein Podcast at Programmier Punkt bar oder über unsere Webseite oder über Spotify oder über Mastodon, unseren großen Kanal da draußen auf Social Media.\n\nSpeaker 1: Letztes hatten wir sogar 'n Mastodon Kommentar. Echt? Ja, unter dem Social Media Post. Gut. Ja.\n\nWird aktiv genutzt. Foldert uns jetzt auch. Danke dafür. Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 0: Sonst dürfen wir wie immer, ne, auf unsere ganzen Veranstaltungen hinweisen. Wir hatten grad den Flatter Day mega cool. Unsere erste ganzjährige Konferenzrat hat richtig viel Spaß gemacht. Vielen Dank für alle, die da waren.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, ich, da wollte ich auch nur sagen, also war es war wirklich, wirklich gut. Hat sehr viel Spaß gemacht. Danke an jede Person, die da war, auch alle, die über den Podcast gekommen sind. War eine richtig schöne Veranstaltung. Ich hab's richtig genossen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Danke auch an die Speaker. Es waren richtig gut.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und die Speaker waren natürlich alle sensationell. Geil.\n\nSpeaker 0: Jo. Und vor der, nach der nach der letzten Veranstaltung, vor der nächsten und am achtundzwanzigsten November haben wir nämlich einen Doppelvortrag über Data in Games, also Business Intelligence angelehnt. Das nächste Meet-up for free Bad Nauheim abends kommt gerne vorbei. Dave und Garet sind bestimmt bereit, euch an der Bar mit leckeren Drinks zu versorgen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Sehr sehr gerne. Und es gibt und es gibt auch Punsch.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ach, richtig. Das war das Ding. Punch. Das ist die die Punch Edition. Bisschen\n\nSpeaker 1: in Weihnachtsstimmung zu kommen, ne.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, richtig.\n\nSpeaker 1: Es ist ja auch, glaub ich, vor dem ersten Advent oder? Das Wochenende? Der Donnerstag.\n\nSpeaker 0: Auf jeden Fall schon voll weihnachtlich. Ja. Mega. Maximale Weihnachtsstimmung.\n\nSpeaker 2: Gibt's Spekulatius?\n\nSpeaker 0: Alles. Legohund, Vegacius, Glühwein, Wasser, die vorher Ein eins Weinangst. Weinsprung. Geschenke.\n\nSpeaker 1: Oh ja. Ja, gibt es immer. 'N alter, weißer Mann mit Rauschebart.\n\nSpeaker 0: Dann lass dir mal 'n bisschen in den Bart stehen bis dahin. Ja, und schaff\n\nSpeaker 2: mal alt.\n\nSpeaker 0: Vielen Dank, dass ihr dabei wart. Vielen Dank fürs Zuhören. Ab deine schöne Woche. Tschüssi.\n\nSpeaker 2: Bis dann.",[17790,17803,17808,17813,17820,17832,17837,17844,17850,17854,17858,17862,17867,17872,17878,17884,17890,17894,17897,17904,17914,17919,17930,17939,17944,17948,17953,17959,17968,17972,17979,17983,17987,17991,17998,18009,18021,18025,18033,18036,18049,18062,18066,18070,18075,18079,18090,18103,18112,18124,18133,18137,18143,18147,18155,18159,18163,18170,18177,18183,18187,18193,18202,18214,18218,18222,18225,18229,18237,18240,18249,18261,18267,18275,18286,18298,18307,18316,18325,18336,18344,18348,18361,18374,18387,18392,18403,18414,18427,18440,18453,18463,18474,18481,18490,18502,18506,18511,18515,18519,18527,18536,18542,18546,18556,18568,18572,18575,18585,18589,18599,18602,18606,18612,18616,18620,18633,18639,18643,18648,18652,18656,18660,18664,18670,18680,18684,18688,18695,18705,18715,18721,18725,18737,18749,18762,18775,18788,18800,18809,18813,18818,18822,18834,18838,18842,18846,18857,18861,18864,18876,18889,18902,18909,18921,18925,18930,18937,18941,18945,18956,18969,18982,18995,19003,19009,19022,19033,19036,19042,19046,19057,19067,19071,19077,19088,19095,19106,19113,19117,19127,19137,19141,19145,19149,19153,19157,19161,19173,19182,19192,19203,19215,19221,19226,19236,19242,19252,19256,19260,19268,19276,19280,19287,19295,19301,19305,19313],{"sentences":17791,"speaker":397,"num_words":17802,"start":394,"end":518},[17792,17794,17796,17798,17800],{"text":17793,"start":394,"end":431},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu einer neuen Podcast Folge.",{"text":17795,"start":431,"end":464},"Wir haben schon Kalenderwoche sechsundvierzig im Jahr vierundzwanzig.",{"text":17797,"start":469,"end":481},"Das geht so schnell.",{"text":17799,"start":481,"end":493},"Ich bin Dennis.",{"text":17801,"start":493,"end":518},"Schön, dass ihr wieder dabei seid.",30,{"sentences":17804,"speaker":397,"num_words":17807,"start":523,"end":538},[17805],{"text":17806,"start":523,"end":538},"Neben mir im gleichen Raum.",5,{"sentences":17809,"speaker":376,"num_words":17812,"start":543,"end":572},[17810],{"text":17811,"start":543,"end":572},"Dave aka Delasman Standing in der Dorfdiskothek.",7,{"sentences":17814,"speaker":397,"num_words":17819,"start":576,"end":616},[17815,17817],{"text":17816,"start":576,"end":601},"Das war aber 'n altes Geräusch, Dave.",{"text":17818,"start":601,"end":616},"Wir brauchen neue Geräusche.",11,{"sentences":17821,"speaker":376,"num_words":17831,"start":616,"end":770},[17822,17824,17826,17828,17829],{"text":17823,"start":616,"end":638},"Ah, ich hab ganz vergessen.",{"text":17825,"start":638,"end":671},"Deswegen ist, wir hatten ja schon so viele Geräusche.",{"text":17827,"start":671,"end":696},"Ich weiß gar nicht mehr, welche wir hatten.",{"text":702,"start":696,"end":699},{"text":17830,"start":699,"end":770},"So, deswegen ich muss mir jetzt alle Folgen noch mal anhören, zu wissen, welche wir hatten, welche nicht.",41,{"sentences":17833,"speaker":376,"num_words":17836,"start":770,"end":793},[17834],{"text":17835,"start":770,"end":793},"Ich bin Da mach ich eins.",6,{"sentences":17838,"speaker":801,"num_words":17843,"start":798,"end":847},[17839,17841],{"text":17840,"start":798,"end":810},"Alter, das war cool.",{"text":17842,"start":814,"end":847},"Dave, kannst Du nicht auf das hier, die ist?",13,{"sentences":17845,"speaker":376,"num_words":17849,"start":852,"end":864},[17846,17848],{"text":17847,"start":852,"end":859},"Auch gut.",{"text":866,"start":859,"end":864},3,{"sentences":17851,"speaker":397,"num_words":17849,"start":864,"end":878},[17852],{"text":17853,"start":864,"end":878},"der Ansel macht?",{"sentences":17855,"speaker":376,"num_words":17836,"start":878,"end":897},[17856],{"text":17857,"start":878,"end":897},"Der Ansel macht das richtig gut.",{"sentences":17859,"speaker":801,"num_words":17812,"start":900,"end":924},[17860],{"text":17861,"start":900,"end":924},"Ich kann's immer nur jedes zehnte Mai.",{"sentences":17863,"speaker":397,"num_words":17812,"start":928,"end":951},[17864,17865],{"text":932,"start":928,"end":929},{"text":17866,"start":929,"end":951},"Aber der Ansel kann's viel besser.",{"sentences":17868,"speaker":376,"num_words":17871,"start":951,"end":987},[17869],{"text":17870,"start":951,"end":987},"Ey, das ist aber wirklich wie aus sonem Soundboard.",9,{"sentences":17873,"speaker":397,"num_words":17819,"start":991,"end":1032},[17874,17876],{"text":17875,"start":991,"end":998},"Ja, schlecht.",{"text":17877,"start":998,"end":1032},"Und aus seinem Homeoffice zugeschaltet ist sonst der Liebe.",{"sentences":17879,"speaker":801,"num_words":17883,"start":1037,"end":1096},[17880,17881],{"text":1041,"start":1037,"end":1038},{"text":17882,"start":1043,"end":1096},"Dennis, ich wollt dich grad mal fragen, weißt Du die Kalenderwoche eigentlich immer auswendig oder musst Du",18,{"sentences":17885,"speaker":397,"num_words":17843,"start":1096,"end":1143},[17886,17888],{"text":17887,"start":1096,"end":1105},"vorher nach?",{"text":17889,"start":1105,"end":1143},"Nein, guck sie immer drei Sekunden vorher noch mal schnell nach.",{"sentences":17891,"speaker":801,"num_words":17849,"start":1143,"end":1153},[17892],{"text":17893,"start":1143,"end":1153},"Das wär crazy.",{"sentences":17895,"speaker":397,"num_words":376,"start":1157,"end":1158},[17896],{"text":702,"start":1157,"end":1158},{"sentences":17898,"speaker":376,"num_words":17903,"start":1162,"end":1189},[17899,17901],{"text":17900,"start":1162,"end":1174},"Wo schaust Du die nach?",{"text":17902,"start":1174,"end":1189},"Ich weiß nicht mal, wo.",10,{"sentences":17905,"speaker":397,"num_words":17913,"start":1193,"end":1248},[17906,17908,17909,17911],{"text":17907,"start":1193,"end":1207},"In unserem Google Kalender.",{"text":1215,"start":1207,"end":1212},{"text":17910,"start":1212,"end":1236},"Stehen sie oben links neben den Wochen.",{"text":17912,"start":1239,"end":1248},"Ist relativ Ich",15,{"sentences":17915,"speaker":801,"num_words":17918,"start":1248,"end":1303},[17916],{"text":17917,"start":1248,"end":1303},"frag mich, ob den Zuhörern das irgendwas irgendwie bringt, dass wir das in Kalenderwochen irgendwie 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Taskleistern Tab bauen und so was das einfach wegreduzieren und ich relativ oft auch diese Seitenleiste irgendwie einklapp und Du hast halt einfach dann mehr so eine App Experience.",{"text":18305,"start":5325,"end":5378},"Und ich glaub, das ist für mich tatsächlich schon der der Hauptunterschied, warum ich das Browser schöner finde in Anführungsstrichen.",60,{"sentences":18308,"speaker":376,"num_words":18315,"start":5381,"end":5451},[18309,18311,18313],{"text":18310,"start":5381,"end":5396},"Ich war tatsächlich eher son bisschen überfordert.",{"text":18312,"start":5400,"end":5430},"Aber man sieht auch viel Fläche so Zeug damit anfangen.",{"text":18314,"start":5433,"end":5451},"So viel kann man auch nicht mal sehen.",25,{"sentences":18317,"speaker":801,"num_words":18324,"start":5453,"end":5566},[18318,18320,18322],{"text":18319,"start":5453,"end":5492},"Ich fand, ja, also mich hat das auch dieses Step Management einfach überzeugt.",{"text":18321,"start":5495,"end":5557},"Es klappt halt 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sicher.",{"text":18343,"start":5753,"end":5817},"Auf jeden Fall mit dem m vier max und ja, letztendlich kann man sagen, auf jeder Ebene besser als das davor.",{"sentences":18345,"speaker":801,"num_words":17849,"start":5821,"end":5834},[18346],{"text":18347,"start":5821,"end":5834},"Der MacBook ever.",{"sentences":18349,"speaker":397,"num_words":18360,"start":5838,"end":5962},[18350,18352,18354,18356,18358],{"text":18351,"start":5838,"end":5849},"Das mit Sicherheit, ja.",{"text":18353,"start":5852,"end":5864},"Es ist optisch gleich geblieben.",{"text":18355,"start":5868,"end":5881},"Das heißt, gibt's wieder in schwarz.",{"text":18357,"start":5885,"end":5942},"Also das gibt's ja jetzt, weiß ich gar nicht, m zwei hat das, glaub ich, eingeführt, ne, diese Space Black Version davon.",{"text":18359,"start":5946,"end":5962},"Die wir darf's ja ganz cool finden.",44,{"sentences":18362,"speaker":397,"num_words":18373,"start":5966,"end":6338},[18363,18365,18367,18369,18371],{"text":18364,"start":5966,"end":6119},"Und genau, wenn man's vergleicht tatsächlich mit m eins Max, was ja schon irgendwie einen Riesensprung war damals und viele von uns auch immer noch happy sind mit ihren m eins Max Geräten, da war's, glaub ich, cpu mäßig fast eine Verdoppelung, also zweimal so schnell und auch gpu mäßig, grad nicht mehr ganz im Kopf.",{"text":18366,"start":6119,"end":6129},"Aber ähnliche Sprünge.",{"text":18368,"start":6129,"end":6215},"Also schon beeindruckend, dass auch auf der Architektur letztendlich gut, jetzt nicht von Version zu Version, sondern jetzt sind wir schon vier Versionen weiter, aber die auch relativ schnell hintereinander released wurden.",{"text":18370,"start":6218,"end":6320},"Einfach noch mal mehr Power, wo ich schon langsam son bisschen Zweifel, also jetzt für unsere Dev Community beispielsweise haben wir ja, wenn jemand neu kommt, eigentlich immer so die ausgemeckste Version von so 'nem Gerät gekauft.",{"text":18372,"start":6323,"end":6338},"Wo ich jetzt so langsam manchmal zweifel.",135,{"sentences":18375,"speaker":397,"num_words":18386,"start":6338,"end":6586},[18376,18378,18380,18382,18384],{"text":18377,"start":6338,"end":6389},"Also ich glaub, es macht immer noch Sinn, weil's nachhaltig, also ne, wir können sie bis länger nutzen.",{"text":18379,"start":6392,"end":6406},"Wir haben einen höheren Restwert.",{"text":18381,"start":6410,"end":6423},"Wir können alles Mögliche damit machen.",{"text":18383,"start":6423,"end":6515},"Natürlich jetzt auch grade so AI mäßig, aber ja, ich glaube, ganz viel davon braucht man im Alltag nicht und selbst wir Devs nutzen nicht die Leistung dieser dieser Powermaschinen.",{"text":18385,"start":6519,"end":6586},"Da musst Du, glaube ich, schon irgendwie so Video Editing mit, weiß ich nicht, tausend acht k Ressourcen und gleichzeitig und so 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jetzt 'n bisschen offener werden und wahrscheinlich deswegen die Leistung sich ja doch dann am Ende grade für Gamer dann doch die Leistung sich ja doch dann am Ende gerade für Gamer dann doch bezahlbar macht.",120,{"sentences":18404,"speaker":397,"num_words":18306,"start":6946,"end":7125},[18405,18406,18408,18410,18412],{"text":702,"start":6946,"end":6950},{"text":18407,"start":6953,"end":6999},"Also jetzt ist jetzt gefährliches Halbwissen, was ich darauf anne, also meins meins auch dazu.",{"text":18409,"start":7002,"end":7068},"Weil ich würde mal behaupten von den den Werten, die da sind, müsst ihr das eigentlich sehr gut Ich glaube, es ist eher son Kompatibilitätsding.",{"text":18411,"start":7068,"end":7109},"Also weißt Du irgendwie, was Microsoft immer dieses, gibt's das noch Direct X?",{"text":18413,"start":7109,"end":7125},"Ist das immer noch 'n Ding?",{"sentences":18415,"speaker":397,"num_words":18426,"start":7128,"end":7378},[18416,18418,18420,18422,18424],{"text":18417,"start":7128,"end":7146},"Oder heißt das heute auch schon alles ganz anders?",{"text":18419,"start":7150,"end":7205},"Aber dann irgendwie die Metal Sachen auf Apple und das einfach irgendwie kompatibel zu machen, dass die Triple-A-S-Kenn da gut laufen.",{"text":18421,"start":7205,"end":7270},"Und ich glaub, das war eher so, viel wurde vorher emuliert und deswegen brauchtest Du viel viel mehr Power, das irgendwie dann auf dem Mac darzustellen.",{"text":18423,"start":7273,"end":7311},"Weil ich würde mal behaupten, von dem, was dort drin ist, kann man kann man schon viel machen.",{"text":18425,"start":7313,"end":7378},"Genau und vielleicht das, was noch, also kleine Art Veränderungen, die es noch gibt, es gibt es ja jetzt auch mit Nanotextur das 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jeder kann sich jetzt auch mal sonen sechstausend MacBook Pro, sechstausend Euro MacBook Pro leisten.",{"text":702,"start":7999,"end":8002},{"text":18459,"start":8002,"end":8059},"Und da ist es natürlich praktisch dann diese gesamte Kapazität irgendwie noch in der Cloud zu haben und da irgendwie Computation auszuführen.",{"text":18461,"start":8062,"end":8130},"Also solang solang Hardware nicht so günstig wird, dass ich ja, dass jeder einfach so auf 'nem günstigen Gerät leisten kann, ist, glaub ich, immer noch relevant.",81,{"sentences":18464,"speaker":801,"num_words":18132,"start":8133,"end":8264},[18465,18467,18469,18471,18472],{"text":18466,"start":8133,"end":8187},"Aber was ich mir schon vorstellen kann, ist halt, dass mehr sone Richtung Kombination geht, was sie bei Apple Intelligence auch machen.",{"text":18468,"start":8187,"end":8214},"So alles, was halt lokal gut geht, und dann halt Cloud.",{"text":18470,"start":8214,"end":8248},"Aber das, ich denk schon, dass das auf jeden Fall die Last reduziert.",{"text":3206,"start":8251,"end":8252},{"text":18473,"start":8255,"end":8264},"Deutlich sogar von Cloud.",{"sentences":18475,"speaker":397,"num_words":18480,"start":8266,"end":8326},[18476,18477,18479],{"text":702,"start":8266,"end":8267},{"text":18478,"start":8267,"end":8322},"Jo, das war auch irgendwas, dass Sie Ihre AI Datencenter bald mit den m vier Chips upgraden wollen intern.",{"text":8327,"start":8325,"end":8326},21,{"sentences":18482,"speaker":801,"num_words":18489,"start":8326,"end":8394},[18483,18485,18487],{"text":18484,"start":8326,"end":8360},"Ja, ich erleb da auch irgendwie voll den Hype of Youtube irgendwie.",{"text":18486,"start":8360,"end":8385},"Alle reden über den Mac mini m vier und so.",{"text":18488,"start":8387,"end":8394},"Der wär so crazy.",26,{"sentences":18491,"speaker":397,"num_words":18386,"start":8396,"end":8617},[18492,18494,18496,18498,18500],{"text":18493,"start":8396,"end":8446},"Hier, ich weiß immer nicht, was so der Ich hatte lange keinen Desktop PC in dem Sinne.",{"text":18495,"start":8450,"end":8477},"Deswegen kann ich mich ja persönlich nicht so viel begeistern, aber ja.",{"text":18497,"start":8479,"end":8514},"Dann kommt natürlich auch noch, das Studio müsste ja auch da noch bald kommen.",{"text":18499,"start":8514,"end":8527},"Also das ist zumindest noch erwartet.",{"text":18501,"start":8531,"end":8617},"Und das wäre tatsächlich das allererste Mal in sehr, sehr langer Zeit, dass alle Macs, die es gibt auf der gleichen Architektur oder die gleichen Prozessoren haben mit der ganzen m vier Familie.",{"sentences":18503,"speaker":397,"num_words":17807,"start":8620,"end":8631},[18504],{"text":18505,"start":8620,"end":8631},"Mal gucken, ob es kommt.",{"sentences":18507,"speaker":376,"num_words":17849,"start":8634,"end":8644},[18508,18509],{"text":8637,"start":8634,"end":8635},{"text":18510,"start":8640,"end":8644},"Findest 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glaub ich, beim letzten Mal gesagt, als ich über Doom geredet hab, dass ich son bisschen, ne, das bisschen schlecht geredet hab oder recht verhalten reagiert habe darauf.",{"text":18676,"start":9886,"end":9923},"Genau, deswegen aber ich muss sagen, jetzt das, was ich gesehen hab, ist schon krass.",{"text":18678,"start":9926,"end":9942},"Also das das Minecraft Ding, richtig wild.",{"text":1004,"start":9946,"end":9947},{"sentences":18681,"speaker":397,"num_words":801,"start":9950,"end":9956},[18682],{"text":18683,"start":9950,"end":9956},"Okay, Walter.",{"sentences":18685,"speaker":376,"num_words":801,"start":9960,"end":9967},[18686,18687],{"text":9964,"start":9960,"end":9961},{"text":9969,"start":9966,"end":9967},{"sentences":18689,"speaker":397,"num_words":17819,"start":9967,"end":9999},[18690,18692,18693],{"text":18691,"start":9967,"end":9983},"ich, mach jetzt mal weiter.",{"text":1451,"start":9983,"end":9986},{"text":18694,"start":9986,"end":9999},"Heute dämpf ich das dann.",{"sentences":18696,"speaker":376,"num_words":17913,"start":9999,"end":10045},[18697,18699,18700,18702,18703],{"text":18698,"start":9999,"end":10012},"Du dämpf ich das?",{"text":1451,"start":10012,"end":10016},{"text":18701,"start":10016,"end":10024},"Warte mal.",{"text":1451,"start":10024,"end":10028},{"text":18704,"start":10031,"end":10045},"Vielleicht dämpf ich das auch selbst gleich.",{"sentences":18706,"speaker":376,"num_words":17903,"start":10045,"end":10081},[18707,18709,18711,18713,18714],{"text":18708,"start":10045,"end":10051},"Mal gucken.",{"text":18710,"start":10051,"end":10063},"Also Erzähl davon.",{"text":18712,"start":10066,"end":10075},"Hast Du's gespielt?",{"text":702,"start":10075,"end":10078},{"text":1451,"start":10078,"end":10081},{"sentences":18716,"speaker":376,"num_words":17978,"start":10081,"end":10116},[18717,18719],{"text":18718,"start":10081,"end":10096},"Gabriel, Du hast es auch gespielt.",{"text":18720,"start":10096,"end":10116},"Da haben wir ja, glaub ich, zusammen dran",{"sentences":18722,"speaker":801,"num_words":17871,"start":10119,"end":10144},[18723],{"text":18724,"start":10119,"end":10144},"Man kann's online spielen übrigens, also für alle Zuhörer.",{"sentences":18726,"speaker":376,"num_words":18020,"start":10148,"end":10262},[18727,18729,18731,18733,18735],{"text":18728,"start":10148,"end":10158},"Es gibt Genau, genau.",{"text":18730,"start":10160,"end":10182},"Werden wir auch noch verlinken, den Link dazu.",{"text":18732,"start":10184,"end":10220},"Und zwar genau, was was ich fand, also User Input funktioniert sehr, sehr gut.",{"text":18734,"start":10220,"end":10251},"Das passt alles mit Maus und Tastatur, kann man sehr gut machen.",{"text":18736,"start":10251,"end":10262},"Die Physik ist realistisch.",{"sentences":18738,"speaker":376,"num_words":18102,"start":10266,"end":10503},[18739,18741,18743,18745,18747],{"text":18740,"start":10266,"end":10316},"Beleuchtung werden auch korrekt verstanden und was ich wirklich sehr beeindruckend fand, dass das Gameplay auch insgesamt richtig interpretiert wird.",{"text":18742,"start":10316,"end":10347},"Also Minecraft, wie der Name sagt, Craft, ne, man Objekte.",{"text":18744,"start":10351,"end":10356},"Das funktioniert dort.",{"text":18746,"start":10356,"end":10424},"Man kann dann halt Sachen zusammensetzen und dann kannst Du dann aus irgendwie zwei Holz und drei Steinen kannst Du dann irgendwie sone Axt machen oder so.",{"text":18748,"start":10426,"end":10503},"Dass wenn Du son son Zaunelement machst, dann verbindet das auch automatisch diese Elemente, diese ganzen Sachen mit Erfahrungspunkte, Leben und wie gut Du genährt bist, so.",{"sentences":18750,"speaker":376,"num_words":18761,"start":10503,"end":10701},[18751,18753,18755,18757,18759],{"text":18752,"start":10503,"end":10529},"Das funktioniert auch alles, dass Du auch richtig Schaden bekommst.",{"text":18754,"start":10529,"end":10560},"Du kannst essen und dann wirst Du dann wieder bisschen satter und so.",{"text":18756,"start":10562,"end":10606},"Und was ich sehr, sehr interessant fand, dass zum Beispiel auch diese Abbaugeschwindigkeit abhängig von deinem Werkzeug funktioniert.",{"text":18758,"start":10606,"end":10672},"Also in Minecraft ist es so, Du kannst das Spiel, Erde kannst auch, also ganz bisschen alles kannst Du ja mit der Hand einfach abbauen.",{"text":18760,"start":10675,"end":10701},"So Erde, da brauchst Du irgendwie so drei Sekunden, so.",76,{"sentences":18763,"speaker":376,"num_words":18774,"start":10703,"end":10882},[18764,18766,18768,18770,18772],{"text":18765,"start":10703,"end":10741},"Und wenn Du jetzt irgendwie Stein abbauen möchtest, da brauchst Du eben fünfzehn Sekunden.",{"text":18767,"start":10741,"end":10788},"Aber hast Du eine eine eine Spitzhacke, kannst Du das innerhalb von 'ner Sekunde abbauen, so.",{"text":18769,"start":10788,"end":10808},"Und das interessiert dir das auch alles richtig.",{"text":18771,"start":10808,"end":10830},"Also das funktioniert wirklich gut, was ich sehr beeindruckend fand.",{"text":18773,"start":10830,"end":10882},"Also die haben gesagt, ist eine technische Demo, aber es ist schon wirklich, wirklich crazy, was das dann alles drauf hat.",69,{"sentences":18776,"speaker":376,"num_words":18787,"start":10882,"end":11246},[18777,18779,18781,18783,18785],{"text":18778,"start":10882,"end":10898},"Und natürlich hat es Einschränkungen, ne.",{"text":18780,"start":10898,"end":11017},"Ich hab zu Beginn erwähnt, ich hab's mit Gange gespielt, ich hab auch 'n bisschen mit Fabi gespielt und man merkt schon, es es halluziniert hin und wieder, als irgendwann springt und auf einmal schwebt man in der Luft und denkt, wo bin ich?",{"text":18782,"start":11017,"end":11025},"Was passiert da?",{"text":18784,"start":11025,"end":11113},"Das Inventar, das man hat, das ändert sich manchmal random, also Du hast grad irgendwie, weiß nicht, zehn Holz eingesammelt, aber hast Du kein Holz mehr und denkst denk dir, hä, was soll das?",{"text":18786,"start":11113,"end":11246},"Ein eine Sache fand ich total verrückt, da war irgendwie eine Blume und dann hat man sich umgedreht, da wurd da irgendwie 'n Huhn draus und aus dem Huhn war ganz scharf und dann irgendwie am Ende doch 'n Schwein und dann mit 'nem Creeper und der ist explodiert und hat dich umgebracht.",140,{"sentences":18789,"speaker":376,"num_words":1363,"start":11246,"end":11461},[18790,18792,18794,18796,18798],{"text":18791,"start":11246,"end":11269},"Das ist irgendwie schon total crazy, was zum Beispiel passiert.",{"text":18793,"start":11271,"end":11313},"Und was ich wirklich 'n bisschen schlimm fand, ist, also es läuft auf zwanzig FPS, was schon ganz gut ist.",{"text":18795,"start":11316,"end":11374},"Wenn man sich dann aber schnell bewegt und dann irgendwie in eine andere Richtung guckt, dann ändert sich die Welt hinter einem auf einmal ganz plötzlich.",{"text":18797,"start":11374,"end":11425},"Das heißt, Du hast eben vielleicht 'n Haus gebaut, aber man ist es weg, wenn Du dich wieder umdrehst.",{"text":18799,"start":11428,"end":11461},"Und wenn Du dich schnell bewegst, kriegt man auch sone leicht Motion Sickness.",{"sentences":18801,"speaker":376,"num_words":18808,"start":11465,"end":11545},[18802,18804,18806],{"text":18803,"start":11465,"end":11501},"Und das also ich hab gesagt, boah, mir ist 'n bisschen schlecht, muss dann ausmachen.",{"text":18805,"start":11501,"end":11528},"Fabi hat auch gesagt, ja, bei mir ging's auch nicht so gut.",{"text":18807,"start":11530,"end":11545},"Von daher Ich geh jetzt",32,{"sentences":18810,"speaker":801,"num_words":17849,"start":11545,"end":11552},[18811],{"text":18812,"start":11545,"end":11552},"zwanzig fps oder?",{"sentences":18814,"speaker":376,"num_words":18817,"start":11555,"end":11675},[18815],{"text":18816,"start":11555,"end":11675},"Ja und auch, weil's 'n bisschen so Legggy war und Du bist gesprungen und dann denkst Du, okay, ich fall jetzt und Du bist Du nicht gefallen und das irgendwie hat mein Gehirn mega verwirrt und mir wurd echt schlecht, dass er Ich hab son Noop Gehirn manchmal.",48,{"sentences":18819,"speaker":801,"num_words":17812,"start":11680,"end":11699},[18820],{"text":18821,"start":11680,"end":11699},"Hör mal das mal in VR, dann",{"sentences":18823,"speaker":376,"num_words":18489,"start":11701,"end":11776},[18824,18826,18828,18830,18832],{"text":18825,"start":11701,"end":11707},"springt los.",{"text":18827,"start":11707,"end":11730},"Das ist aber das Folter, glaube ich.",{"text":18829,"start":11730,"end":11746},"Das in VR ist Folter, ja.",{"text":18831,"start":11746,"end":11750},"Ja, genau.",{"text":18833,"start":11752,"end":11776},"Bevor ich zu meinem nächsten Punkt übergehe, willst Ja.",{"sentences":18835,"speaker":376,"num_words":17819,"start":11778,"end":11805},[18836],{"text":18837,"start":11778,"end":11805},"Willst Du das jetzt irgendwie dämpfen oder hab ich's schon genug",{"sentences":18839,"speaker":397,"num_words":17836,"start":11805,"end":11823},[18840],{"text":18841,"start":11805,"end":11823},"den Hast Du, glaube ich schon.",{"sentences":18843,"speaker":376,"num_words":801,"start":11823,"end":11829},[18844],{"text":18845,"start":11823,"end":11829},"Ich ich",{"sentences":18847,"speaker":397,"num_words":18856,"start":11829,"end":12024},[18848,18850,18852,18854],{"text":18849,"start":11829,"end":11908},"hab ich hab es sehr kurz eingespielt und ich hatte nur vorher von diesem Ding gelesen, dass es sein kann, wenn man sich umdreht, dass es dann die ganze Welt anders ist.",{"text":18851,"start":11908,"end":11967},"Und dann habe ich mich da reingesetzt und hab mich einfach die ganze Zeit im Kreis gedreht und die Welt war immer komplett anders.",{"text":18853,"start":11967,"end":11998},"Es war einfach alles hat sich die ganze Zeit, also komplett andere Szenerie.",{"text":18855,"start":12001,"end":12024},"Also und dann habe ich gedacht, na Ja.",77,{"sentences":18858,"speaker":376,"num_words":18176,"start":12024,"end":12069},[18859],{"text":18860,"start":12024,"end":12069},"Also, ich würd sagen, wenn man das so als technische Demo weiter im Kopf hat, sehr beeindruckend.",{"sentences":18862,"speaker":397,"num_words":376,"start":12073,"end":12074},[18863],{"text":12076,"start":12073,"end":12074},{"sentences":18865,"speaker":376,"num_words":18213,"start":12078,"end":12295},[18866,18868,18870,18872,18874],{"text":18867,"start":12078,"end":12110},"Genau, bis es natürlich zum ersten vorstelligen Spiel kommt, dauert's natürlich 'n bisschen.",{"text":18869,"start":12110,"end":12154},"Aber auch da sei gesagt, ne, ich hab ja vor zwei Monaten oder so von Game Engine geredet.",{"text":18871,"start":12154,"end":12192},"Jetzt haben wir son Open World Spiel, was noch mal eine viel krassere Stufe davon ist.",{"text":18873,"start":12192,"end":12226},"Also wo sind wir dann jetzt in den nächsten paar Monaten, wenn nicht sogar Jahren?",{"text":18875,"start":12226,"end":12295},"Also ich glaub, da ist man an was ganz Krassem dran und ich fand auch sehr interessant, was die in diesem Beitrag gesagt haben über die Zukunft.",{"sentences":18877,"speaker":376,"num_words":18888,"start":12295,"end":12531},[18878,18880,18882,18884,18886],{"text":18879,"start":12295,"end":12344},"Und zwar sagen die, also wen das technisch noch mal krasser interessiert, hört euch die letzte AI News Folge an.",{"text":18881,"start":12344,"end":12365},"Da erklärt das Fabi noch mal 'n bisschen tiefgreifender.",{"text":18883,"start":12369,"end":12406},"Aber die sagen auf jeden Fall, es gibt ja diese Transformer und diese Transformer können inferieren.",{"text":18885,"start":12410,"end":12466},"Und die sagen, das ist so quasi das fehlende Stück, das wirklich kompatibel zu machen, dass man das als game Engine nutzen kann.",{"text":18887,"start":12470,"end":12531},"So, weil im Vergleich zu jetzt zum Beispiel Doom oder CSGO ist das alles irgendwie Action based und das ist jetzt so Transformer based.",92,{"sentences":18890,"speaker":376,"num_words":18901,"start":12535,"end":13011},[18891,18893,18895,18897,18899],{"text":18892,"start":12535,"end":12702},"Und die sagen auch, wenn von von von der Firma edged dieser dieser SOhu Transformer ASIC rauskommt, dann haben die gesagt, dann können wir mit unserem Inferenzesystem unserer Engine und diesem speziellen Transformer, können wir sogar in vier k das alles laufen lassen, was ja schon sehr krass ist, weil's aktuell, glaube ich, auf siebenhundertzwanzig p läuft in zwanzig Frames pro Second.",{"text":18894,"start":12705,"end":12769},"Genau, dieser dieser Sohoho Chip soll auch superkrass sein, weil das irgendwie eine halbe Million Tokens pro Sekunde irgendwie verarbeiten können kann.",{"text":18896,"start":12771,"end":12793},"Das soll auf jeden Fall sehr, sehr, sehr krass sein.",{"text":18898,"start":12793,"end":12947},"Genau und am Ende haben die noch mal sonen kleinen Performancevergleich aufgestellt zu anderen Text- zu Videomodellen, beispielsweise Sora oder Runway, die eine ähnliche Architektur haben und die insgesamt hundertmal schneller sind als sie, ne, weil also sie haben Echtzeit, zwanzig Frames pro Sekunde, das heißt alle null Komma null fünf Sekunden ein Frame, das generiert werden muss.",{"text":18900,"start":12947,"end":13011},"Und man kennt es ja von den anderen Modellen, da braucht man ja teilweise für ein Sekunden Video irgendwie zehn bis zwanzig Sekunden, bis das fertig ist, ne.",180,{"sentences":18903,"speaker":376,"num_words":18908,"start":13011,"end":13087},[18904,18906],{"text":18905,"start":13011,"end":13053},"Also es ist auch schon allein für Text to Video sehr interessant, was Sie da geleistet haben.",{"text":18907,"start":13055,"end":13087},"Sehr spannend, technischer Tiefgang, wie gesagt, in der letzten AI News Folge.",29,{"sentences":18910,"speaker":397,"num_words":17831,"start":13090,"end":13190},[18911,18913,18915,18917,18919],{"text":18912,"start":13090,"end":13095},"Danke, Dave.",{"text":18914,"start":13095,"end":13101},"Gerne, gerne.",{"text":18916,"start":13101,"end":13123},"Nee, brauch ich gar nicht dämpfen, ist einfach beeindruckend.",{"text":18918,"start":13123,"end":13129},"Das stimmt schon.",{"text":18920,"start":13129,"end":13190},"Also wenn man sich einfach diese Entwicklung anguckt und wie schnell jetzt da gestreamt über den Browser Bilder generiert werden, so von woanders und so.",{"sentences":18922,"speaker":397,"num_words":17812,"start":13190,"end":13207},[18923],{"text":18924,"start":13190,"end":13207},"Das ist schon, das ist schon verrückt.",{"sentences":18926,"speaker":376,"num_words":17812,"start":13207,"end":13226},[18927,18928],{"text":702,"start":13207,"end":13211},{"text":18929,"start":13211,"end":13226},"Und kann die natürlich auch anspielen.",{"sentences":18931,"speaker":801,"num_words":17802,"start":13231,"end":13313},[18932,18934,18935],{"text":18933,"start":13231,"end":13288},"Hätte mich jetzt auch gewundert Dennis, wenn Du irgendwas Ermäßiges dämpfen willst, weil Du sonst dich immer so freust über so Sachen.",{"text":702,"start":13292,"end":13293},{"text":18936,"start":13293,"end":13313},"Und das eher so anpreist und so.",{"sentences":18938,"speaker":376,"num_words":17943,"start":13313,"end":13325},[18939],{"text":18940,"start":13313,"end":13325},"Ja, die größte Hypase.",{"sentences":18942,"speaker":801,"num_words":17849,"start":13329,"end":13335},[18943],{"text":18944,"start":13329,"end":13335},"Genau, der Hypase.",{"sentences":18946,"speaker":397,"num_words":18955,"start":13338,"end":13495},[18947,18948,18949,18951,18953],{"text":13327,"start":13338,"end":13339},{"text":13327,"start":13343,"end":13344},{"text":18950,"start":13344,"end":13383},"Mit mit mit Tabllet Agent hab ich letztens wieder was Gutes gebracht.",{"text":18952,"start":13383,"end":13470},"Anyway, ich komme zu meinem noch Thema, ausstehenden Thema und zwar geht es den zehnten Dora Report und für diejenigen, die noch nicht gehört haben, was Dora ist.",{"text":18954,"start":13470,"end":13495},"Dora steht für DevOps Research and Assessment.",49,{"sentences":18957,"speaker":397,"num_words":18968,"start":13499,"end":13833},[18958,18960,18962,18964,18966],{"text":18959,"start":13499,"end":13689},"Man ist tatsächlich son ja Skala, Umfrage oder wie auch immer, also Google beziehungsweise die Google Cloud Abteilung hat das jetzt schon seit zehn Jahren gemacht, wo sie sein Research Programm, wo sie versuchen, Softwareentwicklungs Performance irgendwie messbar zu machen, also High Performance Teams irgendwie die Möglichkeit zu geben, sich weiterzuentwickeln und zu gucken, hey, was was sind die Faktoren, die ein erfolgreiches Softwareentwicklungsteam irgendwie ausmacht?",{"text":18961,"start":13692,"end":13713},"Und es geht letztendlich dort vier große Punkte.",{"text":18963,"start":13716,"end":13753},"Das eine ist so, wie lange braucht man von Änderungen, bis sie tatsächlich live sind?",{"text":18965,"start":13757,"end":13792},"Also das heißt ja von ich hab Code committed und es ist dann in production.",{"text":18967,"start":13796,"end":13833},"Dann ist die andere große Metrik, wie oft deployyt man Code zu Endsuern?",117,{"sentences":18970,"speaker":397,"num_words":18981,"start":13837,"end":14149},[18971,18973,18975,18977,18979],{"text":18972,"start":13837,"end":13877},"Also das geht beides son bisschen auf die einfach auf den Durchsatz, den man so letztendlich hat.",{"text":18974,"start":13879,"end":13902},"Dann geht es darum, wie oft haben Änderungen Fehler?",{"text":18976,"start":13905,"end":13966},"Also das heißt, wenn man was in hat, wie häufig also führt es dazu, dass User ein schlechteres User eine schlechtere User Experience haben?",{"text":18978,"start":13969,"end":14028},"Und dann letztendlich, wenn irgendwie mal ein Service ausgefallen ist oder man was kaputt gemacht hat, wie lange braucht man, das wieder zu reparieren?",{"text":18980,"start":14031,"end":14149},"Und die letzten beiden Punkte eben zählen bisschen auf die Stabilität eines Softwaresystems ein und ja anhand dieser vier Faktoren haben sie eben über die Jahre ein Modell oder Modelle erstellt, eben messbar zu machen, wie wie gut die Entwickler Productivity ist.",116,{"sentences":18983,"speaker":397,"num_words":18994,"start":14149,"end":14434},[18984,18986,18988,18990,18992],{"text":18985,"start":14149,"end":14169},"Ich find das grundsätzlich 'n super spannendes Thema.",{"text":18987,"start":14169,"end":14246},"Ich hab bei uns immer das Gefühl, dass wir vielleicht 'n bisschen zu klein sind, also und auch zu, weiß ich nicht, zu die die Tasks irgendwie dann zu unterschiedlich.",{"text":18989,"start":14246,"end":14276},"Also dass wir nicht so viel gleiches Zeug haben irgendwie, was da durchgeht.",{"text":18991,"start":14276,"end":14314},"Es gibt auch heutzutage ein paar Plattformen, die das letztendlich ermöglichen, das zu messen.",{"text":18993,"start":14314,"end":14434},"Teilweise auch noch andere Metriken obendrauf, wo man einem ne irgendwie sein GitHub aus dem Team und da kann man dann Diese Metriken werden halt automatisch extrahiert, so zu gucken, ne, wie war das mit Bugs und Hotfixes und ja Code Reviews.",107,{"sentences":18996,"speaker":397,"num_words":18480,"start":14434,"end":14492},[18997,18999,19001],{"text":18998,"start":14434,"end":14454},"Man wurde gerevview und so weiter.",{"text":19000,"start":14454,"end":14480},"Also einfach diese Metriken regiert und praktisch sone Performance dort darstellt.",{"text":19002,"start":14483,"end":14492},"Aber grundsätzlich trotzdem vielleicht",{"sentences":19004,"speaker":801,"num_words":18032,"start":14494,"end":14533},[19005,19007],{"text":19006,"start":14494,"end":14507},"Anhand der Commits oder was?",{"text":19008,"start":14507,"end":14533},"Also versuchte herauszufinden, was da committet wurde?",{"sentences":19010,"speaker":397,"num_words":19021,"start":14536,"end":14700},[19011,19013,19015,19017,19019],{"text":19012,"start":14536,"end":14545},"Genau, anhand der Commits.",{"text":19014,"start":14548,"end":14577},"Und je nachdem wie es sophisticated ist, gibt's dann auch noch.",{"text":19016,"start":14577,"end":14605},"Also Du kannst es dann auch noch an sowas wie Linear anschließen.",{"text":19018,"start":14608,"end":14626},"Du kannst da auch dein Slack dran machen.",{"text":19020,"start":14626,"end":14700},"Also da da gibt's zwar diesen Tools, die das dann noch 'n bisschen aufbereiten aufbereiten und so was gibt's noch verschiedene, ja, Dinge, die die noch hinten dran kommen.",64,{"sentences":19023,"speaker":397,"num_words":19032,"start":14702,"end":14981},[19024,19026,19028,19030],{"text":19025,"start":14702,"end":14821},"Auf jeden Fall ist das 'n relativ großer Report, den man sich angucken kann und Sie haben aber noch zwei, drei so Key Take aways dafür veröffentlicht und auf einen möchte ich noch mal ein bisschen oder auf zwei möchte ich noch mal kurz 'n bisschen näher eingehen.",{"text":19027,"start":14821,"end":14847},"Das eine ist natürlich auch hier, wie so viele Themen, AI.",{"text":19029,"start":14851,"end":14946},"Und zwar ist es einfach so, dass tatsächlich mittlerweile eine sehr hohe Adaption von AI in der Softwareentwicklung irgendwie drin ist und es natürlich darum geht so, wie gut ist es am Ende für das, was wir machen?",{"text":19031,"start":14950,"end":14981},"Und das ist eigentlich ganz interessant, weil das 'n bisschen nicht nur positiv ist",111,{"sentences":19034,"speaker":376,"num_words":376,"start":14983,"end":14984},[19035],{"text":401,"start":14983,"end":14984},{"sentences":19037,"speaker":397,"num_words":18386,"start":14984,"end":15202},[19038,19040],{"text":19039,"start":14984,"end":15104},"zwar ist es grundsätzlich so, dass 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